Tuesday, May 17, 2011

A Fun Time Was Had By All

Monroe assessor, KJ condo owners discuss valuations
By Chris Mckenna

KIRYAS JOEL — Property owners whose tax assessments may soon go up streamed into the offices of the Kiryas Joel Community Council on Monday to learn about a change in condominium values that has had broad impact in Kiryas Joel.

For more than two hours, Monroe Assessor Steve Ruelke and his assistant sat with laptops at a kitchen table and chatted one-on-one with each visitor, scrolling through maps and property data as they compared information.

The bottom line, amid all the detailed discussions about condo sizes, rental prices and storage space, was reassuring.

"Our primary purpose here is to gather information," Ruelke clarified at one point. "And we'll make a correction."

The council had requested the informal meeting — the first of two scheduled in Kiryas Joel on Monday — because Ruelke recently altered how condominium values throughout the Town of Monroe are calculated. Instead of basing assessments on the cost of building the units, he's looking at the rental income condo owners earn.

That caused a blizzard of adjustments in Kiryas Joel, where most people live in condos. The owners of more than 1,000 units lucked out with lower values, but nearly 1,800 others wound up with higher assessments. The net result — excluding 110 new units that had no values in 2010 — was an 11 percent increase in condo assessments in the village, according to a spreadsheet Ruelke provided.

Solomon Leimzider was shocked to learn that the values of two rental units he owns had each increased by about 50 percent. He was one of the first owners to sit down with Ruelke on Monday, explaining afterward, "I wanted to understand the basis of his re-evaluation."

But he got even more: He corrected information about the size of his condos and expected lower assessments as a result.

"It looks like he's ready to look into it," he said.

Others faced only modest increases, but came anyway to plead their case and submit a grievance form — the usual method for contesting property-tax values. The Monroe assessment board will review grievances next week.

"It's worth 10, 15 minutes to come down and talk," said one man who gave only his first name, Joel.

Ruelke acknowledges having limited information about Kiryas Joel rents — properties there aren't marketed through the Multiple Listing Service — and promises to lower assessments across the board if shown that typical prices are lower than he assumed.

He said the purpose would be to benefit all condo owners, not just those who file grievances.

"I want there to be equity," Ruelke said. "If we don't do this fairly and equitably, then we have wasted our time."

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nobody cares about KJ. Everyone is just going to sell their home for a high price and leave Woodbury and NY.
Just dont go to NJ because they are taking over there too!

Anonymous said...

heard Lorraine lost in court

Anonymous said...

Lost what??

Anonymous said...

$10,000.00

Anonymous said...

that's only fair. charlie lost his mind.

Anonymous said...

Guess that about kills her chances to run for Supervisor against "Teflon" John!!

Anonymous said...

Let's hope!!

Anonymous said...

We heard that Maria Hunter is all fired up to run for Supervisor!

Anonymous said...

Is Lorraine on any village boards?

Anonymous said...

Maria is going to run for Supervisor and she would do a great job if elected!!!!

Anonymous said...

If you want to see Maria Hunter in action, all you have to do is watch the planning board meetings and judge for yourself.

She definitely would be better than John Burke. Is she serious about it?

Anonymous said...

Yes she is! I heard it from a very reliable source that she is fed up with John and wants to get rid of him.
She wasn't endorsed by the Republicans but I think she is getting a committee together to start collecting signatures so she can run.
Go get 'em Maria!

Anonymous said...

ROTFLMAO!!! That will surely be the day that Maria beats John! To answer a prior post, Village Board did NOT reappoint Lorraine to the PB, so she is no longer on any of the boards.

Anonymous said...

And so what?

Anonymous said...

Getting back to a prior post, Maria certainly would beat John Burke in the election! She has more talent in her little finger than John has in his entire body! And she is smart, experienced and knowledgeable. She has done so much for this town and done a good job. Like the firecracker festival, beautification committee and more.

Anonymous said...

You sure do think highly of yourself Maria!

Anonymous said...

I've said it before and I'll say it again; Maria is a great indian but she doesn't have what it takes to be a chief. She has shown it in past positions (aka party chairman, ambulance corp) and she'll show it again. Hate to see another melt-down Maria. Stay an indian - that's what you're good at.

Anonymous said...

So, someone sees KJ as an illegal community. Ralph are you doing anything? or are you just flapping your gums again?

Anonymous said...

OMG Are we finally rid of McNeal
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Anonymous said...

Maria Hunter will work with Ralph or ANYONE who will help her keep it up against KJ!

Anonymous said...

Larkin passes Woodbury consolidation bill in senate, Nancy's efforts die in committee.

Yawnnnnnnn, nothing new here.

Anonymous said...

Is Maria going to run for assembly against Nancy?

Anonymous said...

Why would Maria run against Nancy? Isn't she friends with Mrs. Double Dip?

Anonymous said...

Is Maria going to run for President?

Anonymous said...

No, but she is gong to be the next Federal Recreation Director. It all depends on how she does this year with the parking lot festival.

Anonymous said...

Maria is not running for anything. Stop the rumor mongering.

She should though, one of the few people in this town that puts any effort into anything. Does more in a week for Woodbury than most do in a lifetime.

Sad how everyone hides behind anonymous. I bet it's the same four or five people commenting here. Sad and funny at the same time.

-Justin Hunter

Anonymous said...

totally unbiased Justin. You should have hidden under anonymous as well.

Anonymous said...

Oh poor Justin! He forgot that his dear mama did run for office at least two times and got defeated!

And as far as doing things for Woodbury, are you talking about how she ruins every project that she takes over? and how no one wants to work with her? Maybe we should ask the ambulance corps why she isn't there anymore.

Don't worry Justin, we all know she isn't running for anything, she couldn't possibly win. She is content behind the scenes being a Democrat town board members campaign treasurer.

And yes, I am anonymous. I don't want her coming after me with her nastiness.

Anonymous said...

nasty? how about you Robin? Don't you think it is nasty to write all these things about Maria? You are just jealous!

Anonymous said...

Quick correction. Maria is not on the Democratic Board at all. She gave that up when she quit the chairmanship years ago. You Republicans have her now...you poor bastards

Anonymous said...

Who's being nasty now?

Anonymous said...

Maria is not on a Democratic committee, she IS a republican now and good buddies with the Village Mayor, Mike Q. BUT she IS the campaign treasurer to a Town Board member who IS a Democrat!

Get it yet?

Anonymous said...

I hope she can do math better than she speaks.

Anonymous said...

Maria sure couldn't speak at this weeks planning board meeting. What is wrong with her?