The Uncle knows that you think that repeating the same crap endlessly somehow makes it true, but over here in Uncle Central we are getting a teensy weesy tired of you having your "***NEWS RELEASES***" posted again and again.
One at a time is really sufficient.
So at the risk of being denounced by you and the Ralphlings (omigod no!) as censoring you, I may end up deleting the second, third or fourth posting of the same bull.
After a while it's just spamming.
Have a good life and be sure to let us know your forwarding address.
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Horaay to the Uncle for actually trying to let discussion occur here, instead of mindless repetition of Ralph's spam.
They are of course welcome to debate the issues with us... but that would of course require, um, an OUNCE of truth to anything they say?
Keep standing up for us Unc... and don't worry if Ralph sends more "cyber monkeys" to attack your site. Its only more evidence to the people of Woodbury of what these people stand for.
Important
**NEWS RELEASE**
found on
www.vilageofwoodbury.info
October 31, 2006
VILLAGE OF WOODBURY - 2006
RALPH CARUSO, CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF WOODBURY ATTENDED A DEBATE AT THE TIMES HERALD RECORD ON 10/30/2006, WITH THE RESULTING NEWS ARTICLE PRINTED ON 10/31/2006.
THE REPORTER, CHRIS MCKENNA TOOK JOURNALISTIC LIBERTY WHEN HE WROTE THE COMMENT WITH REGARD TO CARUSO “… MADE CLEAR HE REGARDS THE ELECTION AT LEAST PARTLY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SETTLE SCORES WITH A TOWN BOARD…”
CARUSO RESPONDED IN AN EMAIL TO MCKENNA, “IT’S UNFAIR, MISLEADING, MISCONSTRUING AND UNPROFESSIONAL FOR ANYONE TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT I EVEN SAID ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT YOU WROTE.”
MCKENNA RESPONDED IN AN EMAIL, “A JOURNALIST DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR A POLITICAL CANDIDATE TO SAY “I’M GOING TO SETTLE A SCORE” “TO CALL IT THE WAY IT IS.”
AFTER READING THE ARTICLE CARUSO SAID, “EVENING SCORES SHOULD BE LEFT TO SPORTS GAMES NOT WHAT AFFECTS OUR RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE.”
CARUSO ASKED THE TIMES HERALD RECORD TO RETRACT THE STATEMENT.
“A JOURNALIST DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR A POLITICAL CANDIDATE TO SAY “I’M GOING TO SETTLE A SCORE” “TO CALL IT THE WAY IT IS.”
Ummmm to the braindead people over at Preservation Campaign Central, here is a little political advice...why the hell are you using that quote from McKenna, it dosent absolve Ralph, it basically confirms from the reporter that that is the gist of what Ralph said...and Ralph is supposed to be a political consultant...we'll there "ACE" now we know why you have lost all of your elections and why you will lose tomorrow too...
There is so much intensity and lies being said to keep Ralph Caruso from being elected tomorrow.
Well, I guess Jonathan Swiller has met his match!
No, the only lies are from Caruso and Company
VILLAGE WILL STOP ANNEXATION---LIE
VILLAGE WONT AFFECT FIRE DIST---LIE
VILLAGE WILL COST US UNDER 200,000---LIE
VILLAGE WILL BE ABLE TO LEASE SERVICES FOR JUST A DOLLAR---LIE
VILLAGE WILL GET US MORE SALES TAX REVENUE---LIE
VILLAGE WONT ALTER ZONING---LIE
And there are many many more LIES LIES LIES
STOP THE LIES DEFEAT THE LIAR!!!
ITS OFFICIAL Ralph Caruso did NOT form the VILLAGE OF WOODBURY to:
- PROTECT US FROM ANNEXATION
- TO TIGHTEN ZONING
- OR ANY OTHER LIE HE HAS TOLD US
Ready:
IT WAS TO SETTLE OLD POLITICAL SCORES
From the Times-Herald Record of 10/31/2006:
“Caruso, who led the charge for the village formation and has been a combatant in recent development battles, made clear he regards the election……as an opportunity to settle scores with a Town Board that until now has held all the cards”
Remember to:
1) VOTE Thursday, November 2nd
between the hours of 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM
at the Senior Center.
2) VOTE Row D , keeping the BOTTOM line for Woodbury as we know it.
3) Vote COMMUNITY PARTY all the way!
Looks like Caruso outsmarted himself. By having a closed door debate as he demanded, he denied the public the right to hear and see him and his slate of candidates. Perhaps he thought he could better control the situation. But it looks like, inspite of efforts to hid behind those closed doors, his true intent got out anyway.
As for Caruso being a match for Swiller---dream on. Swiller, whether you like him or not, is not running for office. Caruso is and is answerable to the public, exceptoh yah, he hides behind closed doors.
Guess all those postings from Caruso and his group denying what happened behind closed doors at the newspaper office is what is called damage control and desperation.
This is the way the press release from the preservationists should read...what shouldve been said is not in caps
VILLAGE OF WOODBURY - 2006
RALPH CARUSO, CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF WOODBURY ATTENDED A DEBATE AT THE TIMES HERALD RECORD ON 10/30/2006, WITH THE RESULTING NEWS ARTICLE PRINTED ON 10/31/2006.
Ralph Caruso candidate for Mayor, afraid of facing the people of Woodbury went to a locked down closed door debate at the office of The Times Herald Record which he himself called for.
THE REPORTER, CHRIS MCKENNA TOOK JOURNALISTIC LIBERTY WHEN HE WROTE THE COMMENT WITH REGARD TO CARUSO “… MADE CLEAR HE REGARDS THE ELECTION AT LEAST PARTLY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SETTLE SCORES WITH A TOWN BOARD…”
The reporter, Chris McKenna wrote about the facts that ocurred at the closed door forum.
CARUSO RESPONDED IN AN EMAIL TO MCKENNA, “IT’S UNFAIR, MISLEADING, MISCONSTRUING AND UNPROFESSIONAL FOR ANYONE TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT I EVEN SAID ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT YOU WROTE.”
Caruso, afraid that the truth had finally got out about his sceme to create a village, and his plan of holding a closed door debate blowing up in his face, e-mailed Chris McKenna and basically scolded him for telling the People of Woodbury the truth.
MCKENNA RESPONDED IN AN EMAIL, “A JOURNALIST DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR A POLITICAL CANDIDATE TO SAY “I’M GOING TO SETTLE A SCORE” “TO CALL IT THE WAY IT IS.”
McKenna basically told Caruso F***K Off i reported what you said. (Mc Kenna is the man!)
AFTER READING THE ARTICLE CARUSO SAID, “EVENING SCORES SHOULD BE LEFT TO SPORTS GAMES NOT WHAT AFFECTS OUR RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE.”
After reading the article Caruso shit himself.
CARUSO ASKED THE TIMES HERALD RECORD TO RETRACT THE STATEMENT.
Caruso realizes all is lost.
On November 2, 2006
Vote Row D
The CommUNITY Party
The Bottom Line for Honesty
The Bottom Line for Integrity
The Bottom Line for Truth
The CommUNITY Party
Vote Row D
Seems a little ironic that Ralph would use the words "UNFAIR, MISLEADING, MISCONSTRUING AND UNPROFESSIONAL" about someone else, when in fact they describe exactly what he did to the public with this whole Village mess! Shame on you Caruso!
Im still waiting to hear how they are going to contract for 1 dollar when the village now controls 7/12 of the tax money. has anyone ever answered that?
PS. If doc paid for the truthful ad.......DOC you rock!!!!
PSS.
Caruso did talk of getting rid of the police department when he was a town board member, just ask anyone that was around between 1978 and 1982. Hope thats not another "score" he wants to settle. God help us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ROW A ALL THE WAY
Vote for the HONEST,ETHICAL,HARDWORKING,
QUALIFIED Team!!
The Preservation Team did not stoop to lies and deception of the people of Woodbury like the community party did! Do not be fooled, they want nothing but to disolve the Village! Do not trust the community party!
The Preservation Team has stated the truth and only the facts!!
Join me tomorrow and:
VOTE ROW A
RALPH CARUSO for Mayor
WILLIAM MULLOOLY for Trustee
GEORGE PEDERSON for Trustee
ADRIENNE FUCHS for Trustee
BENJAMIN MEYERS for Trustee
Experienced individuals who are honest, hardworking and will keep this Village/Towns best interest at heart!!
Vote ROW A for the PRESERVATION TEAM!
The Preservation Team did not stoop to lies and deception of the people of Woodbury like the community party did!
Well, if you stoop any lower you're going to need a snorkle to breath through the Preservationist mud being spread around.
***NEWS FLASH!! (a REAL one, mind you)***
This just in- residents in Highland Lakes Estates have reported that Preservation people were going around today with LIES trying to CHALLENGE THE DULY ISSUED COMMUNITY ENDORSEMENT BY THEIR HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
Additionally they CONTINUED TO OPENLY SPREAD THE LIES THAT STEPHANIE "WORKS FOR KJ."
Continue your mantras of fear and unfounded rumor. Continue to show the people of Woodbury just what the Preservation Party stands for.
I have faith that the people of Woodbury will see the truth tomorrow.
A few days ago, someone posted that Village government has more power to appoint people which means fewer voter-controlled positions. The Highway Superintendent, who is elected in the Town could be replaced with an Dept. of Public Works. Candidate Sutz stated he was interested in considering this option. Under his suggestion, this job would become a patronage position --out of the electorates hands.
The Village Clerk is also appointed and no longer elected by us.
What does that mean in the hands of someone like Caruso who has "scores to settle" as quoted from the Record? These officials no longer answer to us, the voters, but to a mayor whose personal prejudices could get in the way of running our village.
That is why it is so important that the right people, without "scores to settle" get elected. Mr. Sutz, from lack of government experience, may not even realize the consequences of what he is suggesting. Many people may not realize how important it is to have an independent Village Clerk accountable to the voters. People should be very careful what voting lever they pull tomorrow. The Community Party has promised to leave things as they are and cause the least disruption of government functioning. The other choices are wildcards or those with openly stated personal agendas.
YES, THEY WILL AND YOU MISGUIDED CLOWNS CAN FINALLY START PLANNING HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH MAYOR CARUSO AND HIS TEAM AS A VILLAGE BOARD.... YOU ARE ALL LOSERS
Do not be fooled, they want nothing but to disolve the Village! Do not trust the community party!
Since Ralph clearly didn't even bother watching the debate he boycotted, his posts yet again completely ignore reality.
Chris Mele repeatedly pressed all present as to whether we even needed this village, after all the nightmarish financial and municipal issues that seem to be arising, and now that its protection seems minimal.
Every candidate, including ALL the CommUNITY trustees were firm on the need to respect the wishes of Woodbury's voters, and do their best to run this village as effectively as possible.
At the same time, when asked several CommUNITY candidates stated that they would be willing to attempt to consilidate the village IF, AND ONLY IF THIS WAS THE WILL OF WOODBURY'S CITIZENS.
They spoke to the growing sense amongst the audience present that we had been frightened into quickly forming a village by misinformation, and it might have more problems than benefits. I was impressed that CommUNITY party members were willing to give frank, independent perspectives on this, while affirming their commitment to running an excellent village and protecting Woodbury's interests and quality of life at all costs.
The CommUNITY party has been open since the beginning that they come form diverse political backgrounds, and had various views at the village's creation. But they share a commitment to come together and take a stand for ETHICAL, HONEST and RESPONSIBLE government from this point forward.
Woodbury's voters could not make a better choice, in my humble opinion.
ABOVE IS FOR THE "NEWS FLASH" ARTICLE
Twas the night before the election, and all through the land, the little Ralphlings are all starting to realize, the era of Ralph will soon be at an end.
Good night little Ralphlings...
It's been fun yet exhausting reading the battle rage on, but in the end the voters will have the last word. Hopefully it will involve bidding a fond farewell to the preservation party. Thank you.
just a few simple observations from a simple man:
1. Still no answer on the $1.oo per year issue.
2. Donnie Boy is still a weasle just like before he retired.
3. If Ralph gets elected he will install a DPW to settle scores with the highway dept and water dept.
4. Ralph and this crew make Charlie Serra look good.
5. And finally...........thank you Community Party for running and honest and open campaign without the lies and bullshit that the other team tried to resort to ie; community party works for KJ, which, by the way is the dumbest one I have heard to date. Good luck to all.
Can we sue ralph when our taxes go up more than $84.00 per year?
YES, THEY WILL AND YOU MISGUIDED CLOWNS CAN FINALLY START PLANNING HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH MAYOR CARUSO AND HIS TEAM AS A VILLAGE BOARD.... YOU ARE ALL LOSERS
Loser loser loser...
I stand by my suggestion of creating a virtual "sandbox" for this sort of childishness. It insults the adults at this board.
Given that Ralph's been orchestrating harassment and attacks at meetings for years, I'm not sure if anyone could possibly do him justice.
But he's not mayor YET bucko. Keep your pants on till we see what happens election night.
Question: Why do the Preservation people continue to tell lies to the good people of Woodbury:
Choice 1: they have told the lies so often that they believe them.
Choice 2: they have been so totally programed by Caruso that they cannot separate fact from fiction.
Choice 3: they worship Caruso and believe everything he says
Choice 4: they know so little about what they speak, do not read and learn but merely follow their leader.
Choice 5: They do everything behind closed doors, like the debate, and replay their own thoughts as truths.
All of the above.
Isn't the information age wonderful?
For the first time in Woodbury's history, an election has been run where every lie, every deception and every mean trick
can be blasted across the web in the blink of an eye. Rumors can be called out and dispelled while the perpetrator is
still walking down the block spreading them.
Who knows what will happen tomorrow? All that can be said is that we fought one hell of a fight, and that Uncle Betty was there for the TRUTH every step of the way. Thanks Unc, for making this place possible and, to sign off in the tradition of another great champion for truth in the face of fanaticism and scare tactics:
Good night, and good luck.
The same tricks and lies were pulled in the last election but were not uncovered in time so John Burke. Caruso's pal and partner, is Supervisor. Now Caruso wants to cement the team by becoming mayor.
Only a few saw what was going on last year---leaving the Republican Supervisor's line empty so Burke could step in; denying Gerri G a spot so she was forced into a primary; letting Mike Q have a spot but only working for Hank Sullivan and, behind the scenes, for Darlene.
Any doubts now? Caruso and Burke have been a team for over 2 years--only now it is out in the open. Now his daughter is even running with Caruso.
The Preservation Kit has been shown to be full of misinformation, attempts to spin words and answers to have double meanings. Only this time, people are waking up and realizing they have been tricked--about a village preventing annexation, about a half baked budget that is still being pushed. Finally, the newspaper that was manipulated in the last election gets it right---it is about power and control, "settling scores" and redoing the zoning. All you have to do is read the Preservation Kits 1, 2, and 3 to see the changes in their own words. They are putting it out there themselves. Nobody is lying about them; they are lying to us and, sadly, even to themselves. Or maybe not. Maybe they did know all along they would would keep "tweaking" their kits to move in the real direction they wanted.
Woodbury is at a crossroads and we can only hope people realize that the Preservation road is a dark one they do not wish to travel down. I will be praying for our Town and Village.
KJ disavows campaign letter
November 01, 2006
Woodbury — Kiryas Joel officials say they had nothing to do with a letter circulating in Woodbury that purports to be an endorsement by their residents for the mayoral candidate Ralph Caruso.
"We're not taking any position in this election," Village Administrator Gedalye Szegedin said.
The hand-delivered letter is on bogus Kiryas Joel letterhead and is addressed "to our Woodbury Neighbors." It praises Caruso for helping Kiryas Joel win grants through his work for state Senator William Larkin — a boast that presumably is intended to turn voters against Caruso.
Caruso is one of four candidates for mayor running tomorrow in the first Village of Woodbury election. Eight other people are running for four trustee seats.
Chris McKenna
From Seeker of Facts: It is late, but it has been quite a job getting through the murky world of politics and facts.
Yesterday, I put up my thoughts about 2 of the "terrible" laws passed by last year's and this year's Town Boards. Only trouble is that nothing seemed so terrible about the senior housing law that boiled down to letting seniors own their own homes instead of only allowing rental units in Woodbury, allowing the same 4 units per acre density that the other senior law allowed, and letting owner occupied housing be built on up to a maximum of 50 acres instead of maximum of 20. That was the first law. The second was that the Brodsky project applied to be allowed to build senior owned housing on their property. No school kids allowed. No bonus or incentives found, as claimed. Just don't see what was or is so terrible about these 2 laws.
The next law, which is longer and contains formulas, is the Conservation Cluster Overlay District. Found a new term--overlay district which means that this law does not change zoning on any piece of land in town. It allows you to request applying this overlay to a property which does not happen unless it is approved by the Town Board and the Planning Board.
It also applies to only properties of 125 acres or more which in Woodbury means 10 plots of land, including Brodsky's, qualify. Last year, those opposing this law said the law was a rezone of all vacant land in Town--I still have the mysterious flyer which was not signed by anyone but clearly was put out by those opposing the law and wishing to influence the election.
The law requires that at least 20% of the 125 acre parcel must be left as open space that is dedicated to the Town or some entity that preserves land. That land comes to the Town or the land entity and must be left forever open.
If 20% of the 125 acres is left open, the project is allowed to get some credit for wet lands and steep slopes-- it seems as a trade off for that land being donated. It is a sliding scale formual--the more land you donate, the more credit for less usable land in exchange for saving those areas.
In looking at other Towns, this same type of credit is used to get affordable housing or other zoning related things that a community desires. In Woodbury, it is large swaths of land to be left in their natural state. If you do some checking, it appears that other areas of the State, from Long Island to the Albany area, and even further west are all using some type of incentive based zoning--many for the same purpose of gaining park land or open space which appears to be too expensive to buy. Many are very generous compared to Woodbury's formula (many web sites have community open space plans and other informative information on line)
In the case of Brodsky, he had a 400+ acre site and was donating a little over 100 acres-- about 25% of the land on the property. There was a whole list of criteria that had to be met in addition to the minimum 20% donation. He got some additional homes, but if you break it down, most of the density comes from the senior housing which is 4 units per acre.
It appears that those opposing it do not consider getting 100 acres of open land as a valuable resource to the Town. Instead they prefer large lot zoning stretched out across the land with miles of roads with no dedicated open space. It is more someone's preference than something awful. In reading the environmental documents, there was a lenthly list of additional benefits being given to the Towwn-- water improvements for all the town, traffic lights and turning lanes to help traffic at the high school, 100 acres of dedicated land plus parkland fees for use in our Town parks, 2 recreation facilities on their property, gated and private roads not maintained by the Town. The list was quite long. Again, it seems a matter of preferences rather than doing something unethical or bad. Perhaps those on the Boards, who are more familiar with the costs of things listed above felt the Town was gaining some valuable benefits.
But the bottom line is that it is not true that this can be applied all over the Town--only 10 pieces of land meet the 125 acre minimum. And it is based on a formula that seems to be consistent with what other communities are doing in various parts of the States and is not way out there in terms of being overly generous.
So there is a lot of political hype which does not bear up when you actually sit and read stuff. It seems this got caught up in politics with a lot of misrepresentation of the facts and mud slinging.
This has been enlightening while at the same time disappointing because it appears that people are either intentionally misrepresenting these laws or are doing so because they have not actually read them. Either way, we should not be misled. It certainly makes one question the motives of those misrepresenting what these laws really say.
When I travel outside of Woodbury, people ask me if we are nuts here.
First, we create a new village based on wrong information about annexation. Next, we don't even know what the real cost is. Some people don't realize that the new village government can work with the Town or not work with the Town and take all of the services from the Town to the Village. Town employees, who have worked for the community their entire lives, now find they may become village employees or may have no jobs at all--or stay the same--depending on who wins the election.
Mud slinging is an occupation for some. The famous Preservation Kit keeps morhping into new mutations of itself and should be known as the shameless self promotion kit. One full slate of candidates refuses to debate publically because the group getting the auditorium and publicizing, but not running the debate, is accused of running the debate somehow. So that same candidate forces the newspaper into a closed debate format and then complains when the newspaper does not report it the way he likes.
It goes on and on. Friends say I should quit my job and write a book because this is beyond any one's imagination.
It would be a good story if it weren't so scary to those of us living here.
The polls open in about 8 hours and one can expect some last ditch effort from the Preservation Party to shift focus from the collapsing of its Preservation Kit, full of erroreous information, and the debate mess that they put themselves into. Desperate people will resort to desperate actions.
Expect some type of Kiryas Joel twist here or some last minute "revelation".
Former village creator Mike Queenan has laid it out there that those in the Preservation Party have misled people and are moving in a very different direction than intended by many originally involved. Colleen Campbell has said the same thing--promises were being made and are now being broken. If this is happening before they get into office, imagine what they will do if we elect them. THINK CAREFULLY AND VOTE WISELY.
KJ disavows campaign letter
November 01, 2006
Woodbury — Kiryas Joel officials say they had nothing to do with a letter circulating in Woodbury that purports to be an endorsement by their residents for the mayoral candidate Ralph Caruso.
"We're not taking any position in this election," Village Administrator Gedalye Szegedin said.
The hand-delivered letter is on bogus Kiryas Joel letterhead and is addressed "to our Woodbury Neighbors." It praises Caruso for helping Kiryas Joel win grants through his work for state Senator William Larkin — a boast that presumably is intended to turn voters against Caruso.
Caruso is one of four candidates for mayor running tomorrow in the first Village of Woodbury election. Eight other people are running for four trustee seats.
Chris McKenna
Vote for the HONEST,ETHICAL,HARDWORKING,
QUALIFIED Team!!
The Preservation Team did not stoop to lies and deception of the people of Woodbury like the community party did! Do not be fooled, they want nothing but to disolve the Village! Do not trust the community party!
The Preservation Team has stated the truth and only the facts!!
Join me tomorrow and:
VOTE ROW A
RALPH CARUSO for Mayor
WILLIAM MULLOOLY for Trustee
GEORGE PEDERSON for Trustee
ADRIENNE FUCHS for Trustee
BENJAMIN MEYERS for Trustee
Experienced individuals who are honest, hardworking and will keep this Village/Towns best interest at heart!!
Vote ROW A for the PRESERVATION TEAM!
Thank you DOC and the concerned business owners of Woodbury!
Paid ad as seen in the Record on 11/1/06:
An open letter to Village of Woodbury Residents,
When someone constantly uses deception to spread misinformation you can never trust that person. That is precisely what Ralph Caruso and his Preservation Party running mates have been doing to Woodbury voters since last August.
Question from their August Preservation Kit: “After the Village of Woodbury is created, will the zoning regulations change as compared to the present Town of Woodbury zoning regulations?”
Answer then: “NO, the intent of the proposed village is to secure our present zoning and not to change it…To protect the zoning we now have we must approve the Village of Woodbury.”
Answer now: “All zoning regulations will be reviewed to identify and close loop-holes, identify and clarify ambiguous regulations.”
Adrienne “Burke” Fuchs recently said: “The new village government was formed to take care of zoning issues and not take over town services.” (Times Herald-Record 10-28-06)
CARUSO is WRONG on all the important issues
On Annexation: First he says forming a village will prevent it. Now he says he will fight it when it comes. WRONG!
On the Budget: He continues to promote a false yearly budget of $154,000 even though it doesn’t begin to address reality and he is proven incorrect by every other candidate and the newspapers WRONG!
On the Fire District: He claims "The Town of Woodbury & the Village of Woodbury will form a Joint Fire District, Town Law Article 11-A, & operate under Town Law Article 11, the same law that they operate under now, with no changes." The NY State Department of State & the NY State Conference of Mayors confirms that the Fire District must be eliminated by 12-31-2007 & the Fire Dep’t. will then operate under Village Law Sub-Section 254 because the new Village & Fire District are coterminous. Joint Fire District, lower insurance rating, higher taxes. WRONG!
If he can’t get it right now…what will he do if he gets into office?
Fire the Police Department? (He’s already talked about it)
Ralph Caruso and his Preservation Party are
Wrong on Issues - Wrong for Woodbury
Don’t let our precious new Village slip into their clutches.
Sincerely,
The Concerned Business Owners of the Village of Woodbury
Everybody knows it was the Community Party that put out the bogus letter from Kiryas Joel. It just shows how they lie to try to get what they want. They are not honest! They are not Ethical!
DO NOT VOTE FOR THE COMMUNITY PARTY!
ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS DISSOLVE THE VILLAGE!
They will not be truthful with the public!
Join me today and vote
ROW A
RALPH CARUSO AND THE PRESERVATION TEAM!
The best is always on top!!
****HOT OFF THE PRESSES****
There was only ONE BUSINESS that paid for that ad in the Times Herald Record today. That was:
DOC CLEANING! The owner of that business who paid for the ad is DONNIE PROZZILLO WHO IS ALSO A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN! HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE FIRE COMPANY!
DONNIE PROZZILLO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT OTHER BUSINESES PAID FOR THE AD. HE LIED TO THE PUBLIC! THE ONLY PERSON WHO PAID FOR THE AD WAS DONNIE PROZZILLO!!!!HE IS THE ONLY BUSINESS OWNER WHO WANTED THE AD!!
SHAME ON YOU DONNIE PROZZILLO!
**NEW RELEASE**
www.villageofwoodbury.info
November 1, 2006
Important Facts for Highland Lake Estates Residents
Recently you received a flyer from the Highland Lake Estates HOA. It contained unsubstantiated accusations, lacking source reference and proof. In fact, it did not identify any person let alone any officer of the HOA, who are suppose to represent the views, concerns and interests of all the home owners, not just their personal views.
The flyer goes on to say that the HOA met with the Community Party Candidates. Why weren’t the Preservation Party Candidates given the same opportunity to meet with the HOA? We did knock on doors and distributed information.
Responding to specifics in the flyer we offer the following,
Lie #1- Citizens for the Preservation of Woodbury, Ralph Caruso’s group sued our current Town Board and Planning Board.
Fact-Three individuals residing in Central Valley, where their homes are next to the WP #3 project, sued the Town Board. They sued for a revote by the Town Board (not for money) because the Town Board voted to approve the 5 local laws prematurely, violating General Municipal Law 239, and they won the Lawsuit, and the Town Board had a revote. No Preservation Party Candidate is part of this lawsuit or any other lawsuit against the town.
Lie #2 – Do we want a village run by people with ties to KJ.
Fact - No Preservation Party Candidates have any ties to KJ. We are residents of Woodbury as you are, and are the group who organized and fought for the creation of the Village of Woodbury, to secure our zoning and quality of life. All of the Community Party Candidates worked very hard to defeat the creation of the Village. Makes you wonder who does have the ties to KJ. when the Preservation Party Candidates were for the creation of the village and the Community Party Candidates were against the creation, same as KJ.
Lie #3 - Woodbury gets hardly any grant money from Senator Larkin.
Fact - Just two examples of grants from Senator Larkin; 2002 - $300,000 Water System upgrades, 2005 - $100,000 to repair Ridge Road, that part of the road that you had to take detours to get around. Put simply, Woodbury has received almost three quarters of a million dollars in grants from Senator Larkin over 10 years, to help offset tax increases.
Lie #4 – Remember how KJ. residents lined up to vote no for the village? Watch the turnout to support Ralph Caruso.
Fact -They lined up alright because they were on the same side as the Community Party Candidates who opposed the creation of the village, as did KJ. Then when they arrived to vote and went to the table to sign to vote, they were met with voter registration challenges. Challenges filed by Ralph Caruso with the Orange County Board of Elections, 4 days before the election. Ralph Caruso Challenged 222 newly registered seasonal and summer camp residents. Those that came to vote were required to complete and sign a sworn affidavit before they were allowed to vote, and those who did not complete the affidavit, did not vote. To date all of those challenged have not been put back on the voter rolls, and won’t unless they can prove primary residence in Woodbury, thanks to Ralph Caruso.
Lie #5 – Preservation Team wanted the questions prior to attending the debate.
Fact- We have correspondence with the Times Herald Record that dispels this accusation of wanting the questions before hand, and clearly shows we only wanted a professional format and debate sponsored by a non-bias organization, not an organization supporting the Community Party Candidates, as did the Sponsoring Organization. In fact, Ralph Caruso had a debate with two of the three mayoral candidates on 10/30/2006, at the Times Herald Record office, where the Community Party Mayor candidate Stephanie Berean-Weeks did not attend.
Truth #1 – HOA flyer says, When people attack others rather than discuss the issues, there is a generally self-serving agenda in place.
Response -I read the Highland Lake Estates Homes Owner’s Association’s attack flyer you received, and can only say I hope the writers of the flyer read it because they “attack others rather than discuss the issues”, the proof is in the flyer!
The Preservation Candidates, Ralph Caruso, Mayor, Adrienne Fuchs, Benjamin Meyers, George Pedersen, & William Mullooly, Trustees have campaigned on the issues. We put forward proposals, and a plan, in fact we have done so for the past two years. We distributed solid information, only to have the Community Party criticize it, saying it won’t work. We have not and will not sling mud as our opponents have with personal attacks, never telling the residents how much it will cost if they govern the village! Yet, they want you to elect them! Our information packages have included clear and specific costs and proposals.
Remember to vote Row “A” for the Preservation Party Candidates
Ralph Caruso, Adrienne Fuchs, Benjamin Meyers, George Pedersen & William Mullooly
Thursday, November 2, 2006, at the Senior Center, 9:00 am to 9:00 pm.
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Truth, Honesty and Integrity!!
The Bottom Line!!!
Sad state of affairs when Ralph and co have to revert to such childish tactics as releasing a bogus KJ letter. Poor little man.
HERE WE GO.
THIS IS SOME BULL THAT'S GOING ON HERE ONE PARTY LIES AND THE OTHER IS TELLING WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NO, NO, NO.
THE ONE AND ONLY THING THAT I KNOW HERE AND NOW IS THAT MR.CARUSO AND PARTY CAN NOT MUST NOT WIN.
THERE IS ONLY ONE PARTY TO WIN THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM VOTE ROW D
These quotes are just so much fun. I figure if I keep combining the blatantly contradictory statements eventually something cool will happen, like a big firey explosion, or perhaps the secret to controlled fusion.
"We distributed solid information, only to have the Community Party criticize it, saying it won’t work. We have not and will not sling mud as our opponents have with personal attacks..."
"The owner of that business who paid for the ad is DONNIE PROZZILLO WHO IS ALSO A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN! HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE FIRE COMPANY!"
Hmm... that there would look to be... a personal attack! On a fireman, no less... what do you know! Good job!
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"We distributed solid information, only to have the Community Party criticize it, saying it won’t work. ...never telling the residents how much it will cost if they govern the village!"
Actually, we've done our best to tell how much MORE it will likely cost, since your budget leaves out a small things like 200,000 BASIC LIABILITY INSURANCE. And if your information is so SOLID, why haven't you responded to that and many other challenges thus far?
The community party has gone to the trouble of contacting state, county and local officials, reported what they have found and acknowedged areas where they were told firm numbers weren't legally available to candidates. At the public debate you happened to BOYCOTT.
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”Recently you received a flyer from the Highland Lake Estates HOA. It contained unsubstantiated accusations, lacking source reference and proof.
Which you would of course never do...
All of the Community Party Candidates worked very hard to defeat the creation of the Village.
Oh, except for that... do you have ANY evidence for that, or voting records for every single candidate?
Oh, and while we're at it, did the commUNITY party even sign their name to that HOA add? While I'm sure they appreciate the endorsement, it seems a little unfair to blame them for the attacks of others.
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And, while it probaby doesn't even need repeating at this point...
“NO, the intent of the proposed village is to secure our present zoning and not to change it…
Except of course, when you decide to change it later:
“All zoning regulations will be reviewed to identify and close loop-holes, identify and clarify ambiguous regulations.
*Sticks fingers in ears* No boom? Oh well, shall have to keep trying. I'm sure they'll keep giving us fun statements to play with!
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