The Pieman posted this as a comment. Since the Pieman gets credit for the Uncle's brilliance more frequently than any other pretender to the throne, why not show some favoritism? So I'm reprinting the gem here on the front page:
As long as a corruptly elected board remains in power the corruption continues.
We may not be able to remove them, but we can point out this continuing perversion of democracy each time that they meet.
The minute that we begin to pretend that nothing bad happened is the minute that corruption triumphs.
Pointing out their unfitness for office may seem to accomplish little, but little is better than nothing.
Some price must be paid.
I'm afraid that John Burke is a lost cause, dishonesty has marked every one of his campaigns.
But maybe Haviland and Levine will finally stop hiding from the truth and will begin the difficult process of addressing the issue.
Perhaps they will attempt to work to repair the damage rather than dismiss it.
Doing so wouldn't be easy, nor should it be. But it is necessary and the sooner they start the better.
But if they come out of this as if nothing wrong had happened, then we are guaranteeing that it will happen again and again.
The Village elections are two months off. If we allow these lies to fade away, you can be certain that this group will act the same way during that campaign
Jonathan Swiller
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I think the better of of the evil is to get annexed to the Village of Kiryas Joel and at least get our Taxes cut in Half!!!
The only way we will see our taxes diminish is if the Town Board did the right thing and took a pay cut since they now have less responsibility.
Wow, that annexation idea sounds superduper.
In that we would still be part of the Monroe Woodbury School district, out school taxes would remain unchanged.
And, since most homes there are apartments in multi-story buildings, how much do you think taxes on 1/3 of an acre might be? Or an acre? Or two acres?
Fact:
Annexation is going to happen. KJ is not going to annex this piece, then that piece. No, their going to wait till they own all the property they want and annex it all in one shot. That means Ace Farms, and all the land surroundeing it. This is a fact! Who ever believes that all talks of Annexation have come to a halt, never to be discussed again, is delusional. If you took all the land they own right now in the area, it is about 3-4 times the size of Ace Farm. Not the Village or Town Board can do a damn thing about it. Just ask them. If their honest, they'll agree. It cannot be stopped.
But paying taxes to the Village of Woodbury can be stopped. The Village was formed out of fear and lies by Caruso and gang. It is not needed! I have nothing against the Village Board, but frankly, Woodbury does not need the extra layer of Government.
Boy, just think. Town taxes hardly went down if at all. Village taxes going up with them taking over more departments. Get rid of the Village and throw the budgets back to the Town and none of us will have to pay taxes for a couple of years! Yeahhh, right. Look at the boobs on the Town Board now and you will realize that it might be a mistake to give anything back to the Town.
If the Village is disbanded within the next two years, the planning and zoning are then given back to the town. That would mean that the newly elected trio can change the laws that they don't even understand.
I guess Caruso, Donnelly and Mangual would be in control of the town then.
I'm sick just thinking of that.
Keep the Village, diminish the Town's responsibilities to almost nothing. Let John be in control of the Parks! Maybe he can handle that without too much difficulty.
Can someone explain to this registered Republican, why the Town Republican Committee meetings are not open to ALL registered republicans?
Sorry dear registered Republican, you'd have to go to the horse's ass, oh, I mean mouth, Ralph Caruso to get an answer to that question!
Caruso didn't want ANY open meetings at all. Some of the other members wanted all of them open. A compromise was made to open 4 meetings. Others still want all of them open. If you are a Registered Republican we should go to the open meetings and demand that they all become open. Caaruso cancels half the meetings anyway. The Committee hasn't met since October.
Perhaps only the "inner circle" of the Republican committee meets regularly, and like the "inner circle" of the Democratic committee, perhaps they do so over the phone or via email. What a joke both those "inner circles" actually are!
There is a third political party in Woodbury. And the members are Ralph, Burke, Manguel, & Seibold. Along with a few flunkies. Those are the people to watch out for. They also have members on the Rep and Dem Committees that do nothing but say, Yes Ralph, yes Manny. Their all so pathetic. Go to the Rep Committee meeting this month (unless Ralph cancels it again), and ask, which members would like all the meetings open, and who doesn't.
Uncle Betty,
When someone writes on this bl;og, is it possible to show the date as well as the time?
Can anyone please tell me when the next Republican Committee meeting is? Thanks, Reg'd Repub
Thank you putting the date Uncle.
Also the Reps meet (I think) the last or third Tuesday of the month.
Why don't you just call King Ralph @ 928-2059 and find out?
Hey Unk, if I may make a suggestion, time stamp, OK, date, not OK, several folks use the blog site to voice all different views, several others that feel they are being attacked will use the new date stamp to eventully pin point those who are being critical of their opinion, this will only lead to more problems and more distrust and back stabbing, we need to try to rise above the negativity and do what is right for Woodbury, go back to the old format and respect bloggers privicy, that is what this site was created for. Thank you!
Ya got something to hid slick??
I don't quite get how the date stamp reveals idenitites. Please elucidate.
Come on now unc, we all know you're smarter than this. The poster who asks you to remove the date stamp is 100% accurate. For example, if someone were to have a hunch as to who one of the anonymi were, they could get a pretty good idea if they were accurate based on the date and time that the one they're tracking posts.
Even though people (assuming they are people and not those "dogs" that are so often referred to)post as anonymous, everyone has a certain "style" if you will, as to the wasy they write.
And then there are those who post by "specific nicknames" like "sweet pea". They would be more readily "discovered" if soneome really wanted to do their homework.
So, how about it- can you lose the date stamp?
I didn't mean to create such a contraversy. Its just easier, when some blogs go on for days and days to know when they started. Sometimes i'm away, and wonder when it all started thats all. I wasn't trying to identify people. I'm a little confused on that one.
I, your Uncle Betty, paradoxically perhaps, would opt for slightly less anonymity. At least to the point where each dear anonymous picked a nick-name (such as Sweet Pea) and, to a greater or lesser degree, stuck with it.
I do appreciate that some number of you might have reason to avoid full disclosure (business people fearing boycotts, town employees fearing vindictive mistreatment, husbands fearing contrarian wives) but is Woodbury such a fearsome place that each and every one of you must not only hide his (or her) true name, but even avoid having one of your anonymous postings linked to another of your anonymous postings?
The Uncle has certain concerns about forensic accountants from a particular Latin American nation, and so finds discretion the better part of avarice. But is Woodbury so very dangerous that all but a handful of posters must secrete themselves deep within the shadows?
OK Unk, lets be honest, with the right amount of know how, resources, people in the right places, and money, anyone can find out who is actully sending these messages, Lets educate everyone real fast, each time someone writes on this blog or any other blog for that matter, the computer that they send the message from has what called a IP address (an identifying number assisgned to each computer) attached to it, all those who think that they are "Anonymous" think again, there are several in and outside Woodbury who have already went through the process and have found out where all the bloggers have sent messages from to good ole Uncle Betty, if you like I will advise where several of these messages came from, You would be very suprised to see whom is sending these messages and from where, (very interesting and potentially costly) the list does not discriminate and could cause unwanted problems for several people in Woodbury, some of you know this, trust me Unk, shut off the date stamp, there are those who are using this site as a spring board fot future witch hunts!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the origin of an IP address was information that was not for public knowledge? I thought the "keepers" of the IP addresses could get into a great deal of trouble if that info were to be released?
You would like to think that, but trust me, people have already checked it out, ask around, it can be done!
Now I'm curious. Not knowing a heck of alot about the whole internet thing, you're saying that since I'm posting on this blog, anyone can somehow get my IP address? I could possibly understand the good ole UB having some sort of access by virtue of controlling this "blogger account", but since it's powered by Google, I don't understand how they would legally be able to release IP addresses that are "supposed" to be private.
So, please enlighten me. How would anyone be able to get an IP address from an anonymous person posting on this blog?
If, as blog "owner," I have access to certain identificatory information, that is news to me - but, being computer illiterate, I am in no position to say yea or nay on the issue.
For what little it may be worth, I have no real interest in tracking down hidden identities, but, considering the obvious level of paranoia pervading Woodbury, I see no reason for anyone to accept that as Gospel.
Anonymous is a great way to say things without being known. If you have something of substance to say, sign your name. Anonymous is a cheap way of hiding. Like I am doing! We are all a bunch of wimps! Prove me wrong.
Look at this example, If a person puts something illegal on say youtube, or myspace, how do you think they are caught, Bingo, thats right, IP address, the blogger that wrote about this is right, a person with the right connections, money or know how, can find out this information, how do you think the feds and the authorities keep tabs on illegal activity, child molesters and terrorism, do you think these people are identifying who they are, use your head.
Hey, if John and company can outright lie and put their names to it with consequence, then why can't anyone else tell the truth, lie, or do whatever they damn well please under the cover of anonymity? Ralph, Manny, John, Bo & Carlton have set the latest precedent for lying and spreading rumours, so why can't the rest of us. What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Thanks y'all!
If you had a few friends at google you could track the ip's.
"Hey, if John and company can outright lie and put their names to it WITH consequence..." I meant to say WITHOUT.
Uncle,
I'm sorry I ever brought up the subject of having a date along with the time. But just for the rest of you, if it is possible for someone to find out an IP address, it could have been looked up at any time. Putting a date stamp had no bearing on finding an IP.
Hey sweet pea, it has more to do with the witch hunt aspect of things, Your attempting to use the good uncle to pin point who is making comments and when, and yes Mr Aronowitz is correct, friends in the right places can, and do track the IP addresses, so be careful if your using any computer to send messages that you shouldn't be sending them from, like maybe ones that will be tracked back to your employers, remember several employers have internet abuse policies in place, wouldn't want to have to answer for that, could be very messy!
I am not trying to pin point anyone. It was merely a suggestion. Tracking bloggers was never even a thought until someone else brought it up. I'm just curious, how will the "date stamp" reveal people? Wasn't it always a risk with or without the date?
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Thank You for the clarification Mike A, at least someone knows what they are talking about, it has become clear the whole idea of this web site is being twisted and the host "dosen't know enough about computers" to give the bloggers a straight answer!
I find it very interesting that sweet pea acts so sweet and starts most postings with "I did't mean to..." but then suggests things like getting rid of the village now that the republicrats control the town or that annexation is inevitable.
Sweet pea, cut the crap.
I did say annexatoin is inevitable. I did say I don't want two layers of government taxing me. When did I say "I didn't mean it"?
When didn't you say "I didn't mean it"?
And when did you mean it?
When didn't you mean it?
Do you mean what you say or do you say what you mean?
Are you mean or just meaning to be mean?
Do you mean to write something nonsensical or didn't you mean to write nonsense, eh, Sweet Pee?
Wow, what a great come back. What the hell are you talking about?
Thats exactly the point, duh!
Hey Sweet Pea,
It appears you're not in good favor with this "group". Time for another mind rehabilitation session so that you will think like "they" do again.
Undoubtedly, the previous piece of "advice" is from a member of another notorious "group".
The truth is that nothing is going to change. It doesn't matter if we elect a rebublican or a democate. They are only serving thier own interest.
Please vote for anyone who is currently not holding office.
Learn how to spell little Ralphling!
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