Ralph Caruso wants to put an end to Cluster Development in Woodbury, because after all, Cluster Development is terrible...
...except for the minor fact that it isn't.
But why should actual information slow down Ralph?
It didn't get in his way (or into his brain) when he sold us his fully researched village. The one with the few little side effects - like threatening the town with insolvency.
But, obviously Cluster Development must be an awful thing.
Google "Cluster Development."
What you'll find are dozens of articles, such as the one below, from the University of Illinois Extension.
Every one that I've seen (and there may be an exception or two, but it hasn't popped up yet) has said basically the same thing. Cluster Development is the best answer to suburban sprawl. Planners say that Cluster Development preserves open space that sub-division development lays waste to.
Go look for yourselves.
(Except you Ralph, you're excused from looking, after all, you might learn something and hurt yourself.)
Cluster/Conservation Development
Introduction
Over the past fifty years, residential development has spread across the Illinois landscape, quite rapidly in some areas. As urbanized areas have grown, people have migrated to what have become known as subdivisions located in more suburban or rural areas on the outskirts of towns and cities. Much of this type of development has followed a traditional design, which some have described as checkerboard or cookie-cutter housing development. The residential zoning ordinances in most communities have encouraged such traditional designs by requiring minimum lot sizes, uniform road frontage and lot setbacks, specific road standards, and other standard requirements. In general, the only open space within such developments has been the yards between adjoining privately owned housing lots. In many cases, little planning went into preserving or improving the quality of the open-space areas or protecting natural features on the developed parcel.
As concerns over issues such as urban sprawl, open-space preservation, environmental protection, and farmland loss have increased, some home buyers, developers, and community officials have started to question whether the traditional development pattern provides the quality of life that many homeowners now desire. To help address these issues, a rather new concept in development, cluster or conservation design, has become predominant in many communities. Although still somewhat new to many Midwestern areas, the cluster designs have been used for some time in parts of the eastern United States and are beginning to show up in Illinois.
What Is Cluster Development?
The most common name for this new development approach is cluster development, but conservation design and a number of regional terms are applied to the same concept. Regardless of its name, the main objective of cluster development is to allow residential, or even commercial, development while still protecting the area's environmental features, allowing for more open space, and protecting farmland and the character of rural communities.
Cluster developments differ from traditional developments in several ways. Cluster developments usually site homes on smaller lots and there is less emphasis on minimum lot size. However, the total number of homes, or density, on a given acreage does not necessarily increase over that allowed in the traditional subdivision designs. The same number of homes is clustered on a smaller portion of the total available land. The remaining land, which would have been allocated to individual home sites, is now converted into protected open space and shared by the residents of the subdivision and possibly the entire community. (It is important to note that there is flexibility on the 'homes per land area issue: some incentive-based ordinances allow for development of more homes in exchange for providing other non-required features that are desirable to the community.)
In most cases, local ordinances and regulations must be updated to facilitate building conservation development subdivisions. Road frontages, lot size, setbacks, and other traditional regulations must be redefined to permit the preservation of environmentally sensitive areas, rural architecture, historical sites, and other unique characteristics of the parcel of land being developed. Developers often cite local regulations as the primary reason more innovative designs are not used. More flexible regulations does not mean anything goes, however. Traditional codes must be replaced with new design standards that address the goals of conservation development, such as open space preservation, etc.
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CommUNITY Party Mayoral Candidate Stephanie Berean-Weeks will be a guest this morning (10/31) on WTBQ AM 1110 on the Bossman & Lorraine Show. The show starts after the 9AM news on 1110 on your AM dial or listen live on the internet at wtbq.com Call in with your questions at 651-1110
"Caruso... made clear he regards the election at least partly as an opportunity to settle scores with a Town Board that until now has held all the cards." Now if that doesn't just sum up Ralph Caruso, his experience and his dedication to us the voters!!! Yes friends, this is what his running for mayor is TRUTHFULLY all about...to SETTLE SCORES!!!! He was 100% instrumental in getting everyone of those current Town Board members elected (including John Burke) and now that the majority isn't marching to HIS drum, he wants to SETTLE the SCORE!!! Every single person who voted in favor of the village (myself included) should be OUTRAGED!!! We have been seriously duped into trusting this fraud of a man!!! He no more cares about us and Woodbury, than he does about tea in China!! All he wants to do is play that nasty old political game called SETTLE THE SCORE!!!! Let's all wake up and SETTLE OUR OWN SCORE, and say NO to RALPH CARUSO and his slate of invisible, unapproachable candidates on Thursday, 11/2/06!!!
No wonder he and his slate wouldn't appear in public!
This just in! Headlines read "Man Shoots Self In Both Feet in Woodbury".
Steph- Great interview- you go GIRL!! Girls ROCK!!
Finally Mr. Caruso comes clean and tells the truth!
I found the article...
MAN SHOOTS SELF IN FOOT IN WOODBURY ELECTION
WOODBURY-Ralph Caruso, Mayoral candidate in Woodbury shot himself in the foot today in a closed door locked down debate at the offices of the Timez Herald Record.
Figuring he was behind closed doors, Caruso let down his guard and told it like it is in this election.
While foaming out the sides of the mouth and bright red in the face, and banging his shoe on the table, Caruso vowed to cursh the Town Board and his enemies in the new village.
After being tazered several times by campaign aide Don Siebold to calm Mr Caruso down, the debate continued.
On your article, it states the remaining land is identified as open space. What it fails to say that it is identified as open space for that project. What's to say it becomes another cluster later on when some developer waves incentives like repairing your infrastructure that the local government has let decay??
Sound familiar
Oh to you Conroyites and CommUNITY, the point will probably be missed entirely.
This was posted on the
www.villageofwoodbury.info
October 29, 2006
Valley Forge Residents
Yesterday, the Community Party Candidates gave out a flyer filled with untrue and misleading statements and information. The Preservation Party candidates want to expose these lies and clarify the information.
Valley Forge Sewer Treatment Plant
#1) “Within two to three years, a new modern Sewer Treatment Plant, servicing your community, costing between $2,000,000 & 2,500,000 must be constructed.”
Fact): These costs stated are the amounts the Legacy Ridge developer proposed, if a new Plant were built for 422 homes to be hooked up, (Valley Forge’s 135 homes and Legacy Ridge’s proposed 287 homes). In addition, all the sewerage from the new 287 Legacy Ridge homes would pass through the existing Valley Forge Sewer Main Lines. The present Plant does not have to be built in two to three years. The Community Party Candidates are the only ones to say the Plant must be replaced in two to three years. Why would anyone use a mean scare tactic like this? The NYS DEC has never said this plant must be replaced in two to three years, (Currently, the NYS DEC has given approval for the continuation of the Valley Forge sewer plant with the upgrade of two of the three sand beds, which were done in 2006. The 3rd sand bed will be upgraded in 2007. Source: John P. Burke, Town Supervisor).
Expanded & Upgraded Water System
#2) “The municipal water system currently in use will remain as is and not be expanded, upgraded or modernized without developer funding.”
Fact): Their plans include using the existing water mains in Valley Forge that are more than 35 years old. The Community Party Candidates stated in item #2, which is in their flyer, that the Water System will be “expanded, upgraded or modernized”. The Community Party Candidates never state that a New Water Plant and System will be built by the developer. The current water system in Valley Forge meets all the NYS DEC standards and will continue to do so, with the support and maintenance of our Water Department.
Ridge Preservation
#3) “The approved home scheduled for construction on top of the Ridge was voluntarily incorporated into Legacy Ridge by the developer.”
Fact): While one house has been proposed to be eliminated from the hill, remember that many of the other proposed 287 Legacy Ridge homes, if approved, will require Ridge Preservation Consideration because they will be built above the 600 foot level.
Facts you must know: The Legacy Ridge developer to date has not signed any agreement to fulfill any of the proposed improvements. The water and sewer proposals have shifted from, upgrade, renovation to new and everything in between. Yet they mislead the Valley Forge residents in their flyer that a New Sewer Plant must be built in two to three years at a cost of 2 to 2.5 million for Valley Forge homes only. They fail to tell you that the 2 to 2.5 million dollar cost included the proposed 287 Legacy Ridge Homes. The only way to be sure what Valley Forge will get from the developer, is to have a written agreement with the developer and the town, which does not exist!
The Preservation Party has been honest and truthful throughout our campaigning. We have presented our proposals and facts for over two years when we initiated the creation of the Village with two public informational meetings. We want to work for all our residents. We refuse to jeopardize our community by telling lies, just to have the residents vote for us. Our special interest and only agenda is our residents. What are the Community Party Candidates special interests and agenda?
Remember to vote Row “A” for the Preservation Party Candidates
Thursday, November 2, 2006, at the Senior Center.
Just had to read to "Source: John Burke" and I stopped--
Also, I visited the Preservation site. No mention of the great article from today's (10/31) THR there. Thanks again for coming clean!
Adrienne Fuchs--Source John P. Burke, Supervisor.
Everybody see the endearing Mrs. Mullooly chasing down victims at the HM post office yesterday?? Too bad her husband hasn't found it necessary to get out there and actually SPEAK to people and answer their questions! I guess Ralph leaves the muzzle off of ole Carol!
Owners in sub divisions BEWARE of LIES and SCARE TACTICS from the community party!
PArdon me little ralphling, did you say SCARE TACTICS?
the “genetic link” between land speculators, real estate people and the Community Party. Ask their manager for the financial disclosure form, required for those who run for political office. Who is paying the rent and paying the way for the Community Party? (Follow the money.)
Answer: The good people who care about their community- that's who!!! I myself have donated through the fundraiser and on my own. Figures you'd try to muddy the waters with that type of innuendo and nonsense AGAIN. That last ditch desperate mouth. You've already stuck one foot in your mouth Ralph, so you may as well try for both! And, while you're asking everyone to start digging, let's take a deeper look into what you and your pals own, how you got it, and who paid for those lawsuits you guys filed...perhaps that trail will lead back to a certain person who is currently in charge????
How sad that people misrepresent what clustering and open space is. I have done some reading on it, spoken to people in other communities and it is not an evil or bad thing. Nobody likes current subdivisions---we know what they are like.
To the person who said that open space could be redeveloped if another developer offers to improve the infrastructure. You need to educate yourself as others are trying to do.
First, a subdivision is approved and filed. It cannot be changed without going through a totally new reveiw process, including environmental studies. But more importantly, it could not use the open space lands because these would be protected by a permanent conservation easement. Read the links about conservation clusters and conservation easements.
The latter puts an extra layer of protection on land to be preserved. Land trusts and other organizations do it all the time---it is not a new concept. Please educate yourself and learn before you go out and criticize people. Your comments sound very much like Mr. Caruso-- about settling political scores. Perhaps one reason it is so hard to attract and keep good people in office is that there is too much politics and not enought facts. With the internet, people can look up real information not political propaganda. OPen space can and is preserved all the time.
If the Valley Forge sewer plant is in such good shape, how come the Town borrowed over $50,000 or $60,000 last year to fix it again? And how come it borrowed money about 7 or 8 years ago that we are still paying off to do more repairs? So if we borrowed $10,000 or $20,000 a few years ago and some more last year, that means over $70,000 or $80,000 has been borrowed in less than 10 years to keep it going. There are only about 135 homes in Valley Forge to cover this debt--plus interest for borrowing. Does the Preservation Party even know this?
If so, how can they say the plant is fine? It does not sound fine to me.
Some people never seem to get it.
When the same people mislead you over and over again, why do you go back for more?
Caruso's budget is unbelievable to most reasonable people.
Caruso argued with the firemen's attorney about what happens to the Fire District when a Village is created--with no legal training and citing no legal authorities. But he was convinced that he was right inspite of what the lawyer read.
Caruso argued that the Town Board could hold a referendum on zoning when state law says you can't--right there in plain language.
Wake up people. Yesterday's closed Caruso debate said it all--- he wants control and power and to settle scores.
Be careful who and what you vote for.
Tick tock, tick tock...as the hours begin to dwindle away, what can we expect from the Preservation Party? You know they're just busting at the seams to make that midnight run....or perhaps to enlist their commrades to do their bidding....will it be signed or unsigned....will it be from Ralph or Abe....will it be filled with baseless attacks on the other 7 who dared to face the public....will it suggest pay-offs, rip-offs and collusion????? My friends and neighbors, we are all wise to the antics of Ralph, Abe, Carol, Karen, Don etal, so please, don't let them make fools of us all once again. JUST SAY NO to the PRESERVATION PARTY!!!!!
The perminant conservation easement is the highest level of protection used by land trusts and other open space organizations to keep private owners from developing lands. Its top of the line protection, and you'd need a court battle and HUGE justifications to overturn something like that, about as protected as any land can be.
But it goes further than that. The VAST majority of the lands (over 300 acres) are being DONATED to Woobury as WELL as given an easement. That means they will be owned by Woodbury, not homeowners associations or private developers. You'd need a vote of your town/village officials to sell that land or overturn their own required easements, which would stand up in court about as long as a snowman in hell.
The ONLY lands that are in homeowner-association hands are is a small percentage containing utilities and roads they pay to maintain. If the town got those we'd have to pay for things like streetlights and snowplowing, but they STILL have perminant conservation easements and could only be sold (with the easement firmly in place) with the consent of all the homeowners. The town still regulates what happens on those lands, some of which form green corridors WITHIN the developement, and can severely fine and undo the actions of ANYONE who violates the conservation status of those lands (ie- building a shed, deck, cutting trees in places that are to be preserved).
The land goes to Woodbury's hands as the maps are signed... its airtight, despite the complete BS Ralph and Co. have been spreading for years now. Anyone who was "flipped" the land would be stuck with the exact same easements and approvals, albeit without the land the town now owns.
All of this is of course carefully crafted to prevent Woodbury from being biased or "discretionary" in its zoning, something which will be down the tubes, along with most of our legal high-ground if Ralph gets to gut the $150,000 comprehensive plan on the eve of an annexation battle.
Some facts:
All of the town board are now or have been members of the republican committee who Ralph did support at one time. The question the Times Herald should have followed up with is why none of them speak with him anymore. Why is it that the last seven Republican’s (Shelia, Pete, Gerri, Lorraine, Mike A, Colleen, Mike Q) elected in Town under his leadership he does not think they are capable to be in office? This election is about power and not what is best for Woodbury. He is zero for seven when it comes to working with elected officials please remember that when you Vote.
Minor correction, thats 300+ acres going to Woodbury's hands in Legacy Ridge alone.
Well, as if the hole-ridden budget, closed-door debates and promises to "settle scores" with town officials wasn't bad enough...
Like clockwork, CommUNITY party signs have started to be mysteriously torn in half and left by the side of the road. Just like last election.
I plan to repair and proudly display mine, with all its battle scars.
Voters take heed. Look who this is happening to (or rather, who it HASN'T happened to, this year and last fall, as signs vanished and were destroyed).
Woodbury has seen the signs. We have one last chance to choose an honest, decent future for our community.
We won't get another.
While everyone is calling Ralph out on his lies, Sutz has gone untouched, He said he owns Burger Kings, he doesn't he works for a man who does. First he says he will leave Town Services alone, then he says he would explore a DPW, and let's not forget by his own admission, he would like two trustees from each slate and himself as mayor so he will always have the deciding vote. Power hungry and arrogant, just like most of the ambulance corps members have said he is.
Has anyone seen Sutz out talking to people or is it just his wife and kids doing it for him? Who's running for mayor anyway? He's too busy pretending he is a ever so important franchisee.
When will we wake up from this nightmare??????
Sutz also publically endorsed the County's traffic recommendations from last fall, and implied current board members have been remiss in ignoring them.
Is Mr. Sutz aware that said traffic studies, amongst other things recommended that Ninninger road become a "dedicated service road for the village of Kiryas Joel."
One should actually read something before endorsing it. The county has NOT have Woodbury's best interests in mind in many of its dealings.
The community party have all their disgusting billboard signs located on a developers vacant untidy property. And I should mention the real state office too. Anybody see a trend? Here come more favors, more houses, and MORE TAXES. YEA, the community party has my best interest at heart.
Last poster--here come the attacks right on schedule. So what that people in Town let signs be put on their property? The Preservation Party has said it will not adopt the Comprehensive Plan and will change zoning. Have you actually bothered to read the document or have you had it only read to you by biased people? It has many things in it that are good--- from stream protection to green belts, and revitilizing our Main Street. Anyone who reads it would be concerned with a political party and slate of candidates that oppose it. Of course, businesses, homeowners, regular people in Town are fearful of what will happen to taxes and property values after reading the Preservation Kit and hearing Mr. Caruso talk about his plans for our village.
Last year, the same allegations were made against candidates---improper relationships with developers and taking money from them---- spreading of stories with no documents or proof (because there was no proof) by some of the same people involved in the election again this year.
Why would any business or rational person support such stuff? Of course, they are going to other candidates. Just because people support a candidate does not mean they expect favors. Perhaps you think this way because it is how people you associate with operate.
I agree with the last poster--I have supported candidates in elections by putting up their signs and contributing at their fund raisers without expecting or asking anything from them. How insulting of the poster to think that just because we do these things, we are slimy people who then demand favors. Perhpas there is a hint of jealousy that your party--obviously the Preservation group-- is not getting such support --even if you did offer favors. You are a scary group.
Could the person who complained about people putting signs up for candidates in their yards, some of whom happen to be businesses such as real estate offices, be the related to the one who complained that Mike Kling did something sneaky and wrong by not telling us about all the many things he volunteers for--that he was modest instead of boastful? Petty and shameful.
From seeker of facts: earlier today, I shared what I read about 2 of the famous 5 laws passed by 2 Town Boards--about senior housing. I could find nothing bad in them--allowing seniors to own their own homes instead of only being able to rent in Woodbury. The density of 4 units per acre was the same as in the original senior housing law that only allows for rental units. Up to 50 acres instead of 20 acres could be considered for this housing---and all must apply and meet requirements to get this zoning designation. Nothing sneaky or incentive or bonus zoning for developers. In fact, surrounding communities,including Cornwall, allow double our density or more for senior housing.
One feels that we have been deceived by those opposing these laws and suing the Town.
With this in mind, I have been reading the Conservation Cluster Law for myself. And here, again, I do not see why it is so terrible. Perhaps I am missing something so I am going to read it again before saying more. But a pattern of playing fast and loose with the facts appears to be happening here.
One has to ask why? What is really going on?
Political party financial records are publically posted for all to see, as required by law. Sheila and her running mates had nothing to hide last election. Heck, anyone could have looked back to the multiple terms of office she ran, Council and Supervisor, and how she'd always been ultra-cautious about indebting herself to ANYONE. But still, people believed the lies that she was in their pockets- though she dipped into her own, more often than not.
The same lies go around now, and rumors persist. Ask all the questions you like- but make sure you're looking at facts, not wild 11th hour speculation from people too desparate to come up with anything else. Anyone who votes based on such nonesense deserves the mess of a government that results.
Well Good Morning...and now we know who is behind the "follow the money"...none other than Bob "Fat Ass" Donnelly! Why doesn't that surprise me? Leave it to this hypocrite of a man to refer to the Bible, and then in the next breath spew venom. He, the man who so pompously throws out racial and ethnic slurs and slights at EVERY Democratic Committee meeting. The man who refers to the elders of the committee as "woodchucks". Ya, lots of credibility there! He's the Democrats version of Mr. Caruso, through and through. Total disrespect. So go ahead "Fat Ass", keep trying to spread your garbage. The people that gave and gave, whether through volunteering time and/or money are those who want raunchy, bigoted people like you and Caruso OUT of our lovley town! Why the hell do you think they stopped tolerating you as chairman? I'm sure your family is very proud of the disgusting person that your are!
Figures- that man has a filthy, disgusting mouth. The way he eyes women then talks down to them. How does his wife put up with it- assuming he is married!?!?
Regarding donations to candidates, why don't we look at John Hall's, Senator Larkin, Eddie Diana, Sue Kelly or any other Local, County, State or Federal campaign filings.
Donations from business people are routine and certainly not something that concerns me as a voter. Plus the property that you are refering to Mr Donnelly is owned by TOWN RESIDENTS that pay alot more property tax than you do. At least they pay their fair share and then some.
Just because Donnelly and them spent so much money filing their lawsuits and had nothing left to give to Ralph, they shouldn't go pointing fingers. How about this Mr. Donnelly- why not disclose YOUR list of all those who financed the lawsuit against your own TOWN!!! I bet we'd find some interesting names there!!! Perhaps the current man in charge and the wanna be!
I have only one thing to say to Donnelly and the others who make claims about candidates and contributions. Show me the reports,show me the facts. Enough with the claims and no proof.
Hey, did Donnelly work on the Preservation Kit budget too? No wonder we are in trouble. Drop out of the school of political tricks, propaganda, and conspiracies and enroll in the school of research and facts.
For the past almost 2years, part of the Republican and most of the Democractic Committees have been working together behind the scenes---(their positions are the same and the same small group of people are involved-- and they leave the spot open on one party's line so the other party's candidate can win and work behind the scenes together)--- we can all see the dangers of this arrangement.
Bill Mullooly made a personal appearance in front of the Democratic Committee. And they have the gall to say that they're not "backing anyone" as a committee. Shame on you!
Important
**NEWS RELEASE**
found on
www.villageofwoodbury.info
October 31, 2006
VILLAGE OF WOODBURY - 2006
RALPH CARUSO, CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF WOODBURY ATTENDED A DEBATE AT THE TIMES HERALD RECORD ON 10/30/2006, WITH THE RESULTING NEWS ARTICLE PRINTED ON 10/31/2006.
THE REPORTER, CHRIS MCKENNA TOOK JOURNALISTIC LIBERTY WHEN HE WROTE THE COMMENT WITH REGARD TO CARUSO “… MADE CLEAR HE REGARDS THE ELECTION AT LEAST PARTLY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SETTLE SCORES WITH A TOWN BOARD…”
CARUSO RESPONDED IN AN EMAIL TO MCKENNA, “IT’S UNFAIR, MISLEADING, MISCONSTRUING AND UNPROFESSIONAL FOR ANYONE TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT I EVEN SAID ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT YOU WROTE.”
MCKENNA RESPONDED IN AN EMAIL, “A JOURNALIST DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR A POLITICAL CANDIDATE TO SAY “I’M GOING TO SETTLE A SCORE” “TO CALL IT THE WAY IT IS.”
AFTER READING THE ARTICLE CARUSO SAID, “EVENING SCORES SHOULD BE LEFT TO SPORTS GAMES NOT WHAT AFFECTS OUR RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE.”
CARUSO ASKED THE TIMES HERALD RECORD TO RETRACT THE STATEMENT.
Important
**NEWS RELEASE**
found on
www.villageofwoodbury.info
October 31, 2006
VILLAGE OF WOODBURY - 2006
RALPH CARUSO, CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF WOODBURY ATTENDED A DEBATE AT THE TIMES HERALD RECORD ON 10/30/2006, WITH THE RESULTING NEWS ARTICLE PRINTED ON 10/31/2006.
THE REPORTER, CHRIS MCKENNA TOOK JOURNALISTIC LIBERTY WHEN HE WROTE THE COMMENT WITH REGARD TO CARUSO “… MADE CLEAR HE REGARDS THE ELECTION AT LEAST PARTLY AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SETTLE SCORES WITH A TOWN BOARD…”
CARUSO RESPONDED IN AN EMAIL TO MCKENNA, “IT’S UNFAIR, MISLEADING, MISCONSTRUING AND UNPROFESSIONAL FOR ANYONE TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT I EVEN SAID ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT YOU WROTE.”
MCKENNA RESPONDED IN AN EMAIL, “A JOURNALIST DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR A POLITICAL CANDIDATE TO SAY “I’M GOING TO SETTLE A SCORE” “TO CALL IT THE WAY IT IS.”
AFTER READING THE ARTICLE CARUSO SAID, “EVENING SCORES SHOULD BE LEFT TO SPORTS GAMES NOT WHAT AFFECTS OUR RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE.”
CARUSO ASKED THE TIMES HERALD RECORD TO RETRACT THE STATEMENT.
There was only ONE BUSINESS that paid for that ad in the Time Herald Record today. That was:
DOC CLEANING! THE OWNER OF THAT BUSINESS WHO PAID FOR THE AD IS DONNIE PROZILLO WHO IS ALSO A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN! HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE FIRE COMPANY!
DONNIE PROZILLO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT OTHER BUSINESES PAID FOR THE AD. HE LIE TO THE PUBLIC! THE ONLY PERSON WHO PAID FOR THE AD WAS DONNIE PROZILLO!!!!
SHAME ON YOU DONNIE PROZILLO!!!!
****HOT OFF THE PRESSES****
There was only ONE BUSINESS that paid for that ad in the Times Herald Record today. That was:
DOC CLEANING! The owner of that business who paid for the ad is DONNIE PROZZILLO WHO IS ALSO A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN! HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE FIRE COMPANY!
DONNIE PROZZILLO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT OTHER BUSINESES PAID FOR THE AD. HE LIED TO THE PUBLIC! THE ONLY PERSON WHO PAID FOR THE AD WAS DONNIE PROZZILLO!!!!
SHAME ON YOU DONNIE PROZZILLO!!
****HOT OFF THE PRESSES****
There was only ONE BUSINESS that paid for that ad in the Times Herald Record today. That was:
DOC CLEANING! The owner of that business who paid for the ad is DONNIE PROZZILLO WHO IS ALSO A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN! HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE FIRE COMPANY!
DONNIE PROZZILLO MISLEAD THE PUBLIC INTO BELIEVING THAT OTHER BUSINESES PAID FOR THE AD. HE LIED TO THE PUBLIC! THE ONLY PERSON WHO PAID FOR THE AD WAS DONNIE PROZZILLO!!!!
SHAME ON YOU DONNIE PROZZILLO!!
DO YOU THINK THAT BY TYPING IN CAPS THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE LIKELY TO BELIEVE YOU? Here's a tip- if you make no sense in regular type...YOU STILL DON'T MAKE SENSE WHEN YOU CAPITALIZE EVERYTHING!
Desperate times seem to be calling for....all the little Ralphlings to start typing! Hee hee hee.
This is to Donnie Prozillo.
We all stand up and applaud you! It's nice to know that the SMALL business owners care enough to fork over some money and help in the Save Woodbury effort.
You are NOT a disgrace and I think you know that. Next time I see you I will kiss your ring!( I do not know you personally, so when I kiss your ring please do not punch me!)
Shame on a man for paying money and exercising his right to free speech in a public election? Scandelous... unless you remember we live in AMERICA, not a totalitarian regime, despite it being Ralph Caruso's prefered governing style.
Maybe Mr. Prozzillo is the only one behind that ad, maybe he isn't. A little lesson, dear Ralphites on credit card finance (as I suspect you're a little behind the times on many things besides zoning).
A newspaper generally requires a form of payment in placing an ad. Say... a CREDIT CARD? Credit cards are generally in people's names- and SOMETIMES (imagine this) a group of people might ask ONE person to use their card, and pay them back.
Its great fun, and works at restaurants too, if you're not too busy spreading lies and smears to go out to dinner once in a blue moon.
There is so much intensity and lies being said to keep Ralph Caruso from being elected tomorrow.
Well, I guess Jonathan Swiller has met his match!
So will Don (AB) Seibold park his car with a big sign for the PRESERVE RALPH'S SUIT team in front or in back of the Sr Center tomorrow? If so, do try to ignore it, as the PRESERVE RALPH'S SUIT team has not yet been taught ethics!!
We all should realize that if they loose, the Preservation Party will probably sue the Village officers under a little known law called "They told the truth, and that's not fair!"
Vote for the HONEST,ETHICAL,HARDWORKING,
QUALIFIED Team!!
The Preservation Team did not stoop to lies and deception of the people of Woodbury like the community party did! Do not be fooled, they want nothing but to disolve the Village! Do not trust the community party!
The Preservation Team has stated the truth and only the facts!!
Join me tomorrow and:
VOTE ROW A
RALPH CARUSO for Mayor
WILLIAM MULLOOLY for Trustee
GEORGE PEDERSON for Trustee
ADRIENNE FUCHS for Trustee
BENJAMIN MEYERS for Trustee
Experienced individuals who are honest, hardworking and will keep this Village/Towns best interest at heart!!
Vote ROW A for the PRESERVATION TEAM!
Search your hearts and minds, and remember who has had the courage to tell the truth, to speak in front of the public's eyes and ears, and not make up budgets or tax numbers that "sound" good. It takes alot of courage to say "I may not know, but I will work hard to find the answers". The preservation party stopped looking for answers 2 years ago when they first plotted to get even with their political foes. If their kit was so rock solid, why not prove where you got your numbers from, and why not have attorneys or the county or state sign on to what you were proposing. The members of the CommUNITY Party did just that, and they were not afraid to search for the TRUTH. It really is time to shut down these foolish politicos at their own game. Ralph Caruso should have been stopped years ago, but now is our chance to turn him away once and for all. It's time to start fresh...it's time for the CommUNITY party to UNITE Woodbury rather than to allow it to be divided even further. Thank you and good night.
Vote for the HONEST,ETHICAL,HARDWORKING,
QUALIFIED Team!!
The Preservation Team did not stoop to lies and deception of the people of Woodbury like the community party did! Do not be fooled, they want nothing but to disolve the Village! Do not trust the community party!
The Preservation Team has stated the truth and only the facts!!
Join me tomorrow and:
VOTE ROW A
RALPH CARUSO for Mayor
WILLIAM MULLOOLY for Trustee
GEORGE PEDERSON for Trustee
ADRIENNE FUCHS for Trustee
BENJAMIN MEYERS for Trustee
Experienced individuals who are honest, hardworking and will keep this Village/Towns best interest at heart!!
Vote ROW A for the PRESERVATION TEAM!
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