Tuesday, November 08, 2005

Patent Pending

Is Ralphie as dependable as clockwork, or what?

Here it is, the day before the election, and what pops into mail boxes all over town?

Sugar plums?

Lumps of coal?

Nope.

The patented Caruso, always on time UNSIGNED LATE HITTING LIE.

And what a magnificent big stinking turd it is.

Dare I quote, or will Ralph sue for copyright infringement?

Town of Woodbury Town Board Members Voted Thursday Evening November 3, 2005 at a Hastily Called Regular Town Board Meeting – ok let’s pause here and admire the phrase "hastily called regular town board meeting." Honestly, could any of you have produced such a work of art as that?

The Uncle (who in his youth attempted to pass the occasional whopper, learned the hard way, that lying, like wing walking and bear baiting, is a pursuit best left to the trained professional) could never dare dream of creating such an exquisitely bald faced lie.

It’s as if Ralph anticipates the reader will see this mutant flamingo of a statement and say –"Naw, it has to be true, it’s so, it’s so,…obviously self-contradictory that no one would make it up."

Yes indeedee, that’s how the human mind works. Show it the impossible and it will invent an explanation.

So, we have this HASTILY CALLED, REGULAR TOWN MEETING. And were there refreshments? Jumbo shrimp, perhaps?

Nope.

We are told that it "was Originally Scheduled as a "Work Session" Meeting


(yes, of course it was, since every other work session is on Monday night, this mutant one was due on Thursday just so Sheila could be sneaky and turn it into a regular town meeting just like every other Thursday Town Meeting and oh my head hurts, but please, Ralph, continue)

"and Approved The Largest Zoning Change in Woodbury’s History!" Woodbury’s history? Just Woodbury’s history? Don’t wuss out on us now Ralph. It’s an obvious typo. Has to be. I’m sure it was meant to say: THE LARGEST ZONING CHANGE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!

And that’s only one side.
Turn the page over. I dare you.

"READ THIS ARTICLE" aha, John Burke has shown up. Ralph was far too subltle, only captitalizing the first letter of every goddamned word. None of that for big John, a hearty, well pompadored fellow, with capitalization to match – and yes, time for another pause while the Uncle draws yours mind's eye towards this happy band of warriors. See them now, prancing in tights through Sherwood Forest.

Spry, young Robin - no other than Ralph, a leader among men, an object of yearning among women, steady as a rock and twice as humourless.

And Little John, quite obviously, the largest, most fearsome of the group: Carol Mullooly. A woman, yes, but manly in so many ways. A veritable walking rump roast of a warrior.

Friar Tuck – Burke himself. A man of the material world with just enough of the spiritual to get him into the Abbot’s wine cellar.

Maid Marian: Bubbles Reveille, sitting side-saddle atop a prancing roan (OK a large, prancing roan).

Alan a Dale and Will Scarlet: Henry(Hank) and Bo Amidee Haviland (or is it Bo Haviland Amidee?) The Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Brain-Dead of Woodbury politics.

And, off in his keep, humming "shoo fly don’t bother me" the mad Sheriff of Nottingham: Don the Ankle Biter.

And what brings this band of merry men together?

Why, it’s page two of the patented Unsigned Late Hitting Lie.

Ralph, exhausted by his labors on the first side ("Hastily," remember? "Regular," remember?) lies spent, in a coagulating pool of his own grey sweat.

And so John Burke, and all his capital letters, stolen, one at a time, from the Board of Ed (along with a lifetime supply of chalk) takes over:

READ THIS ARTICLE
THE LAWS THAT WERE PASSED WILL PERMIT "HIGH DENSITY HOUSING" ON ALL THE LANDS LEFT TO BE BUILT IN WOODBURY!


Obviously the work of a lesser talent. "High density housing" indeed? That one was already done to death. Yes John, one house per acre John, high density John, sure John. Oh, ho hum!

All the lands left in Woodbury. Oh fer sure fer sure.

OK, OK. I’m hard on John. But what he lacks in wit and originality he makes up for in productivity. A mere 14 words, and he has crammed in three whole lies.

We already know about High Density. But then there’s the little idea that this applies to all the lands left to be built on in Woodbury. And what backs this up? Why "read this article."

I’ll give John this, that last one is subtle. "Read this article" isn’t exactly a lie, because it doesn’t state any facts – all it does is imply.

And what does it imply?

That if you read the article, everything that Ralph and John wrote will be backed up, and by no less an authority than Chris McKenna.

Now give these boys credit. There’s the article, right on the same page, out in the open, for anyone to read. And that’s the beauty part. The article doesn’t say a blessed thing about any of this. But they know no one is going to read it.

High density? – not in the article.

Applies to all the lands left to build on in Woodbury? – not in the article (except in Mike Erroneous’ fevered imaginings).

Hastily scheduled…originally work session…largest zoning change??? Nope, nope and nope. Not one blessed word about any of those in the article.

And they know you won’t read it. Wanna sneak a peek? Don’t tell anybody..shhh – here it is:

November 04, 2005Woodbury board OKs housingBy Chris McKennaTimes Herald-Recordcmckenna@th-record.comWoodbury – The Town Board met last night at the Woodbury senior citizens center and adopted a package of laws allowing developer Bill Brodsky to proceed with plans to build 451 homes on land previously zoned for 148, off Dunderberg and Nininger roads.All the votes were 4-1, with Councilman Michael Aronowitz casting the sole dissenting vote. Supervisor Sheila Conroy and councilwomen Geraldine Gianzero, Lorraine McNeill and Colleen Campbell voted yes.It was a strangely muted conclusion to a controversy that has stirred fierce opposition at town meetings. The crowd of about 100 was silent after the votes. Several spectators later rose to speak, but the board wouldn't let anyone talk about the project without the developer or his representatives there to respond.Afterward, Conroy reiterated what she has said all along were some of the project's chief merits, including the donation of more than 100 acres of open space to the town and the inclusion of age-restricted houses."The thing I feel bad about is it was turned into a political issue from the beginning," she said.Aronowitz, who has repeatedly urged the board to hold off on the votes until it finishes updating the town master plan, said afterward he was concerned both about the Brodsky project and a cluster-housing law just adopted that affects other large land parcels in town."To me, it's not just one project," he said.Brodsky's proposal still needs Planning Board approval. That board has already begun reviewing the project, even though the Town Board had not yet adopted the required zoning modifications.

By the way, the Mayor of Las Vegas wants to cut the thumbs off graffiti artists – how come we never get to do fun stuff like that in Woodbury?

51 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't find Ralph and John and the others funny. if they win this town is f===ed.

Anonymous said...

words to describe the brodsky/conroy article:

"devastating"

"holy s#it"

"brodsky-gate"

anyway, here are tomorrow's letters...

Letters to the editor for November 8, 2005

It's freedom for all
Colleen Coyle, who was upset by the Pledge ruling, assumes that our forefathers fought only for her right to believe and goes on to suggest my family should pack up and leave. Really? She believes it is her right to force my children to say her prayers in their public school. First and last, she suggests that my children bow to her god if they pledge love for country.
Our nation's founders never intended for religion to be so ingrained in public life and were careful to add the necessary safeguards to protect my family. My family settled in New England with the earliest member we traced to 1645. Their great-grandchildren fought in the Revolutionary War, not only for Colleen's right to believe but also my freedom to not. Why should it not be one nation, indivisible, with freedom and justice for all? I believe in anyone's right to pray anywhere they wish, at school, during games and in times of disaster, but their prayer is a personal issue.
Prayer sponsored by public schools and from our government simply runs counter to everything we have fought so hard for. I believe in your right to wave your religious flag just short of where it strikes me in the head.
Raymond Melnik
Salisbury Mills

Freedom of religion
In response to Andrea Marino's letter, we agree with most of her letter, but have to disagree with the last paragraph stating that it wasn't the Founding Fathers' will for the separation of church and state.
What does the First Amendment state? "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." In other words, the state should keep out of all religious matters!
That is the reason our Pilgrim fathers left England and came to America – because they were forced to worship God in state-ruled churches. They wanted the freedom to worship God according to their conscience. This is why our forefathers added the First Amendment to our Constitution, to protect the religious freedoms of all the people, and we have had these precious freedoms for 228 years because of it!
Do you think it fair for the state to enforce a law that would require every person to worship on Sunday when they may keep Friday or Saturday as their Sabbath, which has happened in the past under the ruler Constantine.
We keep the seventh-day Sabbath, Saturday, and we would be very upset if they tried to force us to worship on Sunday!
Praise God for our First Amendment! Let freedom ring!
Lois Stevens
Port Jervis

No vaccine for docs
It is amazing that grocery stores and pharmacies can get however much flu vaccine they need, but physicians seem to be at the back of the line. My sickest patients are being affected by this poor allocation of vaccine. There definitely needs to be changes to the priority of distribution.
Marc Chasin, M.D.
Monroe

Parks' voice heard
Rosa Parks "humble and quiet" as your editorial depicted? I think not.
Parks' voice was heard around the world the day she decided to fight for her and for her fellow man's right to sit anywhere she wanted to on that bus that day and for evermore. Humble? If she had been humble and quiet that day, she probably would have given up her seat on the bus. She did not. She instead, with all the strength, courage, fortitude, faith in God and belief in herself, confronted her fear by saying "no."
You ask if there are others? There are thousands and they are being heard every time they say "no" to low wages, "no" to indecent housing, "no" to unequal education. The power lies in the vote. The power lies in knowing and voting for person who truly represents all the people.
In the many, many speeches that she gave, she shared her belief that there was power in one single vote, one single voice, that could change the world. Thank you, Rosa Parks, for saying "no."
Elsa Figueroa App
councilwoman, City of Newburgh

A public process
On Dec. 23, 2003, the Goshen Town Board adopted a resolution authorizing the purchase of the Salesian property and authorizing a bond in the amount of the purchasing price. The bond resolution and attending document was prepared by New York City Bond Counsel. The Notice of Adoption of the bond was printed as required by law in the official newspaper of the town.
On Jan. 9, 2004, the property was transferred by the county to the town and village, and thereafter, pursuant to the IMA, the village transferred the property to the town. Title insurance was issued by a licensed New York state title company, which reviewed the transaction prior to issuance of their title policy in the amount of $1.2 million.
The report of the sale was published in the Times Herald-Record, the Goshen Independent Republican and the Chronicle.
The entire process took place in full public view and was closely scrutinized, reviewed and approved by New York City bond counsel, counsel for the title company issuing title insurance, and counsel for the county, village and town.
We trust that the foregoing will adequately respond to any questions and/or concerns regarding this transaction
John C. Cappello
Attorney, Town of Goshen
David Donovan
Attorney, Village of Goshen
David Darwin
Attorney, County of Orange

Utility costs a peril
I am reading everyone's complaints with tax increases, of which I have received a $60-a-month increase and I am looking at my electric and gas bills. We are held hostage not only by oil companies but also by the companies that supply us. In looking over my natural gas bill, of which I have not yet turned on so I can keep costs down for the winter, I see that my gas bill that used to be around $35 for this time of the year is now almost $180. How are the working class and the retired people supposed to stay in New York with the costs going over the roof?
The New York state politicians need to address this. We will have people that die from the cold because they cannot afford it, and then we will have the ones that starve because they have to keep a roof over their heads. Is there any relief in sight?
Carol Ludlow
Middletown

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Anonymous said...

here's another
non-existant. looked in the record, found nothing.

Anonymous said...

why would the uncle delete this example of a town board not rushing an important vote right before an election?

for shame, uncle!

November 8, 2005

Cornwall
Board to hold 2006 budget hearing

The Town Board will hold a public hearing at 7 p.m. Thursday on the proposed 2006 budget.
The preliminary version of the spending plan calls for a total outlay of $9.38 million next year, about 3 percent above this year's $9.1 million.
The combined tax rates for the general and highway funds, and ambulance and sanitation services – the parts of the budget for which all property owners are taxed – would go up about 1 percent.
That translates into a tax bill of $1,114.70 for those services for an average home assessed at $175,000. The same owner paid $1,099.36 this year.
Sanitation is one of the few areas where spending is projected to go up – about $66,000, to be exact. In addition to normal costs, the town is continuing efforts to close a $45,000 deficit in that fund.
The budget includes 4 percent raises for Civil Service workers, nonunion employees and elected officials. No raises are projected for town police, who are working without a contract.

Michael Randall

Anonymous said...

has anyone seen my other self?

councilwomen g(g)

Anonymous said...

VOTE:

DIANA
CARUSO
BURKE
REVEILLE
SULLIVAN

Stop the Fear Tactics of Donnery, Conroy & Gianzero. Because Woodbury Is Not For Sale To Greedy Intimidating Developers

BREAK THE BRODSKY PRECEDENT BEFORE IT SETS IN AND DESTROYS OUR TOWN WITH MORE & MORE BRODSKY-TYPE PROJECTS

Uncle Betty said...

so where is the mckenna article?

Uncle Betty said...

ah me, more empty promises and teasing come-ons. such is life. but now the Uncle has mouths to feed and cannot take avuncular duties lightly.

Uncle Betty said...

By the way Don, how much of Highland Mills is Ralph going to sell to Szegedin?
Also, why do the call you Shoofly Louie?

Anonymous said...

After monitoring this site for two months, I am curious as to why Ralphie's entourage has left Mike Queenan alone? Is he really a double agent, planted by Ralph, so he always has his hand in it, and wins no matter what? Remember, Mike Queenan was an endorsed Republican candidate. Mike Queenan started the Village WITH Ralph. Mike Queenan was placed on the planning board as Chairman by Ralph. Could it be, could Ralph be actually manipulating things further, by having Mike Queenan gain the trust of Geri and Sheila, only to become Holly and stick the knife in their backs? I guess we'll just have to stay turned to this saga.

Uncle Betty said...

ah, nicely done. plant the seeds of doubt in the enemy camp. applause, applause.

Anonymous said...

OOOOOO....THE PLOT THICKENS....

AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE RALPHIE BOY LEAVE WOODBURY AFTER HE LOSES AT 9PM TONIGHT, I DONT OF COURSE THINK HE WILL.

EVEN IF CARUSO IS NOT IN WITH QUEENAN RIGHT NOW, EXPECT THAT HE WILL BE AS OF TONIGHT. AT 9 PM HE AND ANKLE BITER AND ERRENOUS WILL ALL BE GIVING MIKE A GROUP HUG AND WELCOMING HIM TO THE BOARD.

WATCH OUT MIKE...

Uncle Betty said...

Not to worry. The Uncle is sure that Mickey Q is safe beyond the reach of Caruso, and considering how much he makes in residuals from Family Guy, he can't be bought.

Anonymous said...

This blog should be called Johnnie Boy Swiller tries to explain it all, but instead spreads as many lies as he and his personalities can think of!

Anonymous said...

No, your thinking of a blog that would be run by Caruso.

It could be called "The Grey Pictured Candidate Attempts, Unsuccessfully to Lie About it All in Bold Italics Times New Roman Font All in Caps That no one Can Understand And Looks Like Sh-t"

Anonymous said...

There you go again getting the facts wrong, as usual. What have you done Johnnie Boy? SOCA (Swiller's Operatives Causing Aggravation)!!

Anonymous said...

say ankle biter, when you aim your car right at some woman to scare her, is that it for you? sexually I mean?

Anonymous said...

Dear Uncle:

I must set you straight on the appropriate fairy tale.
The Story is Goldilocks and the three Bears.
Papa (Pampadour) Bear....Johnny B, off course
Mama Bear....Carol M
Baby Bear....Beau H.(or is it
Aimidee?)
and Goldilocks, the little girl who cries when the bears get mad at her (rightfully so) when she steals their food, is none other, you guessed it.....Bubbles aka Darleen!
But there is one spot missing for Hank, but don't fret, he can be:
The Dancing BEAR!!!!

Love to Oz,

Auntie M

Anonymous said...

What does Donnery have to do with the Brodsky project? Oh ya, in Ralphie's world, he made that a campaign issue, right? What can the county do about a change in zoning? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!! Go ahead folks, find out for yourselves...has Ralphie even said what a legislator can do?? No siree, just likes to hear himself say that he's against it...that surely counts for something, right? I wonder how he feels about the Jets and Giants? I mean an Orange County legislator should have something to say about some football teams too, right?

Anonymous said...

So Uncle Betty- will you be keeping us informed once tomorrow comes?

Uncle Betty said...

Is tomorrow coming?

\Well, in the meantime, here are some dribs and drabs:
heavy turnout in Central VAlley
heavy showing from Brigadoon and Timber Trail
Seniors are leaning to Henry (Hank)

Uncle Betty said...

There is the possibility of a Board made up of John, Henry(Hank), Bubbles, Erroneous and Lorraine.
But then, who would get up at meetings and repeat the same moronic lies time after time?
We will be interviewing for the role at the senior center, please bring references.

Uncle Betty said...

Choreography optional.

Is it true that ankle biter would become the chief of police?

Anonymous said...

If Ankle biter becomes the chief of police then it will be the Town of Woodbury Gestapo. Cant you just picture siebold with the leather trench coat??

Anonymous said...

Hard to believe that moron was a cop!

Anonymous said...

i am counting on the uncle having faster numbers than channel 12

have they really not counted any precincts in all of orange 2 hours after polls closed?

sheesh

Anonymous said...

so was swiller arrested for beating up homeless people at harriman station?

a better question: what the hell was swiller doing in monroe?

an even better question: is the reason the uncle hasnt updated this site because he IS swiller and he cant make bail?

Anonymous said...

breaking news from the record:

"Shelter residents also plastered the fliers on the windshields of hundreds of cars parked at the Metro-North station in Harriman, leading to an altercation this evening with members of the Woodbury activist group, SOCA At Work."

will sheila post bail to get her boss out?

how about billionaire brodsky?

Anonymous said...

record calls it for roxanne the nazi

no water for holocaust survivors

Anonymous said...

To The Truth Said:
The Harriman train station is in Woodbury. Seems like a smart guy like you would have known that.
Further, Swiller is chairman of SOCA At Work, a grassroots organization that is not and never has been restricted to Woodbury.
Hmmm, seems like a smart guy like you would have known that too. You don't know much of anything do you? Are you by any chance the recently defeated candidate for county legislator? Nope, you're way too smart for that.

Anonymous said...

But in Woodbury, Supervisor Sheila Conroy was trailing challenger John Burke by 6 per-cent of the vote with eight out of 10 precincts reporting.

And in Monroe, early results showed Supervisor Sandy Leonard last in a three-way race.



looks like roxy might have carried the woodbury dems to victory!

Anonymous said...

swiller posted here that he didnt protest walmart or target because theyre in monroe

stupid.

Anonymous said...

CHANNEL 12 REPORTING

BURKE & LEONARD WIN

100% of votes in

GOOOOOOODBYE SHEILA!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Anonymous said...

oh shit.

Anonymous said...

To the truth said:
1. What exactly does Walmart and Target have to do with the Harriman station?
2. Swiller and Soca At Work have never been restricted to Woodbury. They did, in fact, endorse the Democrats in Monroe for this very race. They endorsed candidates for all the county wide elections as well as Blooming Grove and three county legislature races.
They also endorsed candidates for State Supreme Court, which represents 5 counties.
I wouldn't expect you to know all of this stuff but a smart guy like you should have known some of it.
Are you sure you didn't just get your butt whipped running for legislature? You're not nearly as smart as I thought you were.
If you have trouble reading this, perhaps someone can help you with the big words.

Anonymous said...

the latest numbers:

Woodbury
Supervisor (One seat, two year term)
John P. Burke, D, G- 1417
Sheila A. Conroy,* R, C - 1270

Town Clerk (One seat, two-year term)
Desiree Potvin,* R, C - 1605

Town Justice (Two seats, four-year term)
David V. Hasin, R, - 1076
David Levinson,* D, C - 1705

Councilman (Two seats, four-year term)
Geraldine Gianzero,* R, C - 1216
Amidee T. Haviland III, D, G - 887
Michael F. Queenan, R - 1154
Darleen Reveille, D, G - 1109
Henry J. Sullivan, SOT - 607

Superintendent of Highways (One seat, two-year term)
Peter M. Stabile,* R, C - 1668

Tax Collector (One seat, four-year term)
Carol D. Herb,* R, C - 1699

Anonymous said...

it's over...

nazianne trounces caruso

burke beats sneaky sheila

geraldine (gerri) & queenan take advantage of dems/hank split

November 8 , 2005

Results from the Town of Woodbury

By Chris McKenna
Times Herald-Record
cmckenna@th-record.com
Woodbury - John Burke, an outspoken Town Board critic who helped lead opposition to a 451-home development proposal, won a place for himself on that board yesterday by unseating Supervisor Sheila Conroy.

Burke, a Democrat, eked out a narrow victory over Conroy, the two-term incumbent and former Planning Board chairman, reflecting what must have been a fairly even division in Woodbury over a project that the board
cleared only five days earlier.

But Conroy's allies will retain a 3-2 advantage on the Town Board. Her two Republican running mates, Councilwoman Geraldine Gianzero and Michael
Queenan - the current Planning Board chairman - won a seven-way race for two council seats.

The campaign was dominated by debate over developer Bill Brodsky's proposal to build homes on a 400-acre tract off Dunderberg and Nininger roads.

Burke, a retired high school principal, and others had been crusading against the project since it arose a year ago. Brodsky was asking for zoning changes to increase the number of homes he could build, offering to
donate open space and improve the town's water and sewer systems in return. The zoning then in place would have allowed 148 houses.

Conroy and three councilwomen went forward with the environmental review, arguing the project had benefits for the town worth considering. On Thursday night, the board met and voted 4-1 to grant the zoning changes
Brodsky requested.

Anonymous said...

November 8 , 2005

Results from the Town of Monroe

By Chris McKenna
Times Herald-Record
cmckenna@th-record.com
Monroe - Three longtime Town Board members pounded out another victory yesterday with their usual support from Kiryas Joel's largest voting bloc and perhaps some help from a sly, 11th-hour campaign blitz.

Supervisor Sandy Leonard and Councilmen Donald Weeks and Peter Martin each won four more years on the board, beating two slates of challengers
fielded by the Democrats and the SaveMonroe citizens group.

The two opposition parties had an uphill battle from the outset, given their inability to overcome the Republicans' support from Kiryas Joel when they were united behind a single slate of challengers in past elections.

But the three Democrats won an endorsement this year from the Kiryas Joel Alliance, a coalition that wields a substantial number of opposition votes in the Village of Kiryas Joel.

That support might explain the bizarre campaign that unfolded Monday and yesterday, when Monroe residents received recorded phone messages and fliers either supporting the SaveMonroe candidates or trumpeting the
Kiryas Joel Alliance's support for the Democratic candidates.

Both SaveMonroe and the Kiryas Joel Alliance deny having anything to do with the fliers or phone messages.
They appear to have been the handiwork of Kiryas Joel's ruling party, which must have deemed the Democrats a genuine threat to its Town Board allies because of the voting bloc it would win in Kiryas Joel. Ironically,
that meant playing on anti-Kiryas Joel sentiment and pushing votes to the group most critical of Kiryas Joel: SaveMonroe.

"Vote Republican, Get 'KJ,' " read one flier handed out at polling stations yesterday. "Vote Democrat, Get 'KJ-Lite.' " Residents of the Camp LaGuardia homeless shelter were hired in Kiryas Joel yesterday and brought to polling stations in Monroe to pass out campaign
literature intended to help SaveMonroe and hurt the Democrats. Others were driven to Harriman to place the same fliers on the windshields of hundreds of cars parked at the Metro-North station.

Members of the Woodbury activist group SOCA At Work found the phony literature late yesterday afternoon and went through the parking lot and picked them off - as shelter residents slapped more down.

"The people behind them are trying to subvert the electoral process," SOCA At Work leader Jonathan Swiller explained. Police from Woodbury, Harriman and the MTA showed up and arrested Swiller on an assault charge.

Anonymous said...

will queenan turn into the swing vote?

wouldnt hurt him to cozy up to his new boss burke and earn a cross-endorsement next time around.

no need to kiss sneaky sheila's big rump anymore

i wonder what desiree will do now that she has no one to bark orders at her

and hey, the residents of woodbury might actually be allowed to speak at town hall meetings

imagine that!

democracy at work

goodnight sheila!

maybe next year you can run for dogcatcher

or you can clean the reservoir with one of those pool nets to help it meet SEQRA standards

or maybe clean mulooly's yard

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Anonymous said...

To: All those of you excited by the Burke Win:

Learn about how NYS Government runs...

There is no Executive Branch in Town Government...that means Burke is worthless to you as Town Supervisor becuase the good guys still control the Town Board...and in NYS the Town Supervisor has just as much power as the Town Board and vice versa. Burke cant do anything without the majority of the Board.

Gerri Gianzero, Mike Queenan and Lorraine McNeill are now the most powerful people in town.

Expect them to use that power wisely.

In the end Caruso lost all around. Will you now finally LEAVE, PLEASE!!!

Anonymous said...

"Gerri Gianzero, Mike Queenan and Lorraine McNeill are now the most powerful people in town."

no. mike queenan is. and now that he's done coaching the rangers ot a stanley cup victory, he's gonna become the independent he always was. he has nothing to lose and everything to gain. including the sup's seat when burke goes for roxanne.

a bipartisan queenan would be unstoppable and VERY powerful.

Anonymous said...

here's a sneak peek at tomorrow's record editorial

keep it on the d/l...

November 09, 2005

Policy is torturous
If we do not torture, why does the president resist a legal ban on it?

Sometimes, under pressure, presidents dig into their emotional reservoir and say things that have the ring of conviction, but which ultimately come back to bite them. Hard.
"I am not a crook."
"Read my lips: No new taxes."
And now, perhaps, "We do not torture."
The last, of course, was uttered by President George W. Bush, Monday, in response to a question from a reporter. Two things immediately suggest there may be a problem here for Bush:
1. That the president of the United States should even be asked about this country's policy on torture of prisoners is an insult and embarrassment to every American citizen who has been led to believe that this nation lives by the highest standards of behavior, standards it has preached to other nations since the founding days of the republic.
2. The president's blunt statement did not answer the question that was asked.
Of all the controversies facing the Bush administration, this is the most baffling and, for what its mere existence may suggest, the most troubling.
Consider: The country is stuck in Iraq, with 2,000-plus troops killed and no hint of when or if Iraqis will be able to manage their own affairs and let U.S. troops begin to come home. The president's nominee for the Supreme Court had to withdraw because of resistance from the right, left and center of the political spectrum. A terrible choice. The vice president's chief of staff, a key member of the Bush inner circle, has been indicted for lying to authorities investigating the leak of the identity of a CIA agent. The president's own chief adviser remains under investigation in that same probe and many people suspect he was part of a White House conspiracy to discredit a critic of administration policy. The federal deficit is in the stratosphere, yet Republican leaders are still looking for tax breaks for the wealthy. Confidence in the government's ability to deal with emergencies is in the basement thanks to the president's and FEMA's feeble responses to Hurricane Katrina. Gas prices have soared with no appreciable White House recognition of a need to change energy policy to put more emphasis on conservation.
We could go on, but that's more than enough for any president to have to deal with at one time. Yet Bush persists in making torture an issue. Having tried to get his lawyers to write an exception into law to allow U.S. interrogators to ignore the Geneva Conventions on treatment of prisoners of war, he now insists he will veto any bill from Congress that forbids the torture of prisoners.
The question Bush was asked Monday was whether he would allow the International Red Cross to examine clandestine CIA prisons abroad. The Washington Post reported on the existence of such prisons, which would explain Vice President Dick Cheney's offensive campaign to exempt the CIA from any torture ban if the agents were working in other countries.
So, how about a Red Cross inspection?
"We do not torture," Bush replied. He added later, "There's an enemy that lurks and plots and plans and wants to hurt America again. And so, you bet, we'll aggressively pursue them."
Tough talk. It still sounds good to some people.
Not to Sen. John McCain, who was tortured in North Vietnamese prisons, nor to 89 other senators who voted to officially ban torture by U.S. personnel. McCain argues that torture is ineffective, because people being tortured say anything they think their torturers want to hear. That may well have contributed to the faulty intelligence that led to the Iraq invasion.
Also, allowing torture, abuse, mistreatment, and humiliation of prisoners by U.S. interrogators would place U.S. troops in peril of the same treatment should they be taken prisoners of war.
And finally, McCain said, "Prisoner abuses exact on us a terrible toll in the war of ideas because inevitably these abuses become public." It exposes us as hypocrites.
In response to reports of prisoner abuses in Iraq and Guantanamo Bay, the Pentagon yesterday issued a wide-ranging directive requiring the humane treatment of prisoners and specifically banning the use of dogs in interrogation. In effect, it puts all existing policies on prisoner treatment in one place and is a welcome complement to the ban on torture approved by the Senate.
Meanwhile, the president insists "we don't torture," yet resists reinforcing that moral position with the force of law. For the country's sake, we can only hope that photos don't emerge from those nonexistent CIA prisons that will make Bush eat his words.

Anonymous said...

There is one minor problem. SEQRA was Woodbury's main defense against annexation. John Burke does not appear to know a great deal about SEQRA. The two acknowledged experts in SEQRA in O.C. are Edelstein and Conroy.
John's plan for dealing with annexation is "We have lawyers." We may be in trouble.

Anonymous said...

Record leaker- someone should take a leak on you, you jerk. It's obvious you don't live in Woodbury, because if you did, you'd know what a dangerous position we sit in. I'll bet Mr. Burke won't even last two years. And as for your boy Ralphie, he got his ass kicked good, and will have to go to Plan B, since he is simply UNELECTABLE!! Like someone said before, he can keep answering those phones and bring "the Don" with him to wash Uncle Bill's toilets! HA, HA, HA! As for Sheila, she is a woman who is ever dignified, ever a respected, honorable person. Your big, bad John will now have to take all the crap that he once handed out. Let's see how tough he remains. And you can rest assured, we will hold his feet to the fire for every damn complaint he ever uttered. We'll have to watch how quickly he can learn the ear pulls, and twitches from Ralphie boy sitting at the back of the room, or Aronowitz as he disappears into the secret room. Let's see if Burke has enough scripts written for this one!

Anonymous said...

Roxanne Donnery!!! You go girl! Whatcha gonna do now Ralph? All that money on all those artistic mailers, and all those signs? Hell Bill Larkin going door to door couldn't even get you elected!! You're a loser Ralph, so just accept it!

Anonymous said...

the swiller crew lost a big one on tuesday. the power is shifting to the forces of good. against greedy developers. against intimidation of our town. against fear. against bigotry.

thank you voters of woodbury, for returning my faith in our desire for what's moral and right.

goodbye "uncle" sheila

please return channel 12's phone calls HAHAHAHAHA!

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Anonymous said...

Oh ya, getting Burke into office sure is a HUGE win...NOT! He still doesn't control the board, and he still won't have the power to overturn the zoning changes or pack the other boards with "his" people. Last laugh is on you moron!!

Anonymous said...

Hey Bottom Line:

What alternate reality to u live in?

Caruso was crushed, bubbles, bo, and Dancin Hank all lost. Yeah Burke won...but he will have no power.

So, in reality the Carusoites lost big.

It's OK i know the shock of it all has led you to want to believe that you guys all won...but, you really do need to re-join us here on planet reality...

Oh, and will John Burke wear his trademark baggy jeans and sweat shirt to the town board meetings as Supervisor...if so i would like to do him a favor by calling that Queer Eye for the Straight Guy show...becuase our new Supervisor is gonna need some new threads.

Anonymous said...

Maybe we can just seat him behind the pole!